ᐅ Is a staircase layout with two quarter turns plus a landing possible within a maximum area of 2.4 by 2.4 meters?

mertmk3 schrieb:

Is there any reason why a staircase with these concrete dimensions would be a problem? Is it okay if we have more steps at the top than at the bottom? At the top, we simply have more length available than on the ground floor.

Hi,
we also chose a staircase similar to the one you drew.
We have more steps at the top than at the bottom as well, and the staircase will be made of concrete.

Maybe this is helpful for you.

The dimensions are 1.64 x 3.06 meters (5 ft 5 in x 10 ft).

Regards
Bier

@Bierbrauer84


164 cm (65 inches) at the top of the plan, but at the bottom of the plan, where the two dashed steps are, it will probably be around 215 cm (85 inches) – right?

Thank you for the feedback, so I’m not entirely on the wrong track.

Still, I would appreciate an opinion on the aforementioned staircase, both regarding the feasibility of constructing it in concrete and the dimensions in terms of comfort and aesthetics.

mertmk3 schrieb:
The architect’s design is basically set; a half-turn staircase is planned here.

Everything can be made worse while trying to improve it.

mertmk3 schrieb:
We don’t really like the winding staircase, so I started looking for alternative designs we might prefer.

That’s completely fair, but unfortunately...

mertmk3 schrieb:
It turned out that a staircase with a landing and straight steps would be nice. The example above is my attempt to fit straight steps and a landing with comfortable dimensions into a limited space.

... what you end up with is not what you would wish for: the staircase in the image kindly shared by RobsonMKK has you going "Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav, Gustav" (and that was only going up; walking down is even more limping). This is not climbing stairs, it’s more like hopping. That’s why no one with enough sense to be both a structural engineer and an architect would come up with such a crazy idea.

By the way, I wouldn’t want to go below a rough opening width of 1m (3 ft 3 in) for any staircase, and your step noses at the change of directions are incorrect.

mertmk3 schrieb:
We are already in the building permit / planning permission phase,

That might be the last-minute chance to save it
(I hope I understand correctly that a worsened staircase would not pass due to the fixed ceiling opening).

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And why exactly am I going at a limping pace? Unfortunately, your posts do not contribute to finding a solution.

I have followed all the boundary conditions as stated in the standard and in the post that @ypg contributed, but I don’t know any more than that.
The slope and number of steps are now as you suggested: 16 x 18.43cm (7.25 inches) / 26

Could you please make a proposal, or do you believe it has to be a half-turn staircase? What would be a suitable set of dimensions for a staircase with straight steps?

kbt09 schrieb:
@Bierbrauer84


164 cm (65 inches) at the top of the plan, but at the bottom of the plan, where the two dashed steps are, it will probably be closer to 215 cm (85 inches) – right?

Yes, exactly.
The dashed steps are only on the upper floor, where the hallway is wider, and we saved that space in the ground floor corridor.

Friends also have a staircase like this, and it looks good visually and is easy to use.

@mertmk3
It seems like you are trying to squeeze this type of staircase into an existing plan. A staircase with two landings takes up a lot of space. Without changing the other rooms or the floor plan completely, you probably won’t be able to fit this kind of staircase in easily.

For example, we wanted this type of staircase from the beginning and planned it centrally in the house as a “feature.” The other rooms were then arranged around the staircase (which still involved a lot of back and forth).

If you want this kind of staircase, or basically a completely different staircase, I would recommend reviewing the entire floor plan and then planning the staircase to be comfortable accordingly.

Best regards,
Bier