Hello!
I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
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Caspar20209 Oct 2018 09:22Zaba12 schrieb:
Was that normal for the culture? Probably yes, so what now?Yes. Completely normal.
Visitors are often surprised by how many Chinese people openly spit in public. Many also audibly clear their airways. Even China’s former top leader Deng Xiaoping was known as an enthusiastic spitter. In the 1970s and 1980s, when greeting state guests in the Great Hall of the People, he reportedly always carried a spittoon with him.Caspar2020 schrieb:
Yup. Completely normal. Interesting. That means 1/5 of the world’s population is now considered antisocial by @montessalet.
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chand19869 Oct 2018 09:31Zaba12 schrieb:
Was that normal for the cultural context?Yes, completely normal.
Zaba12 schrieb:
Probably, but so what?Point out that it’s not normal in our cultural context and should at least be avoided on carpets. What else?
Zaba12 schrieb:
He is a guest in a country and should feel at homeUm... no? Only up to the point where certain etiquette rules, which help us feel at home here, are not violated. Spitting on carpets crosses a line for me.
Fun fact: During my PhD, I had a Chinese colleague for two years. I had to explain to him at the beginning that loud farting in the office is considered rude here— he was completely surprised. He then went elsewhere to fart.
He was a nice guy. You just have to speak up if you want something. Attitudes toward bodily noises are obviously quite different in China compared to here. Slurping, burping, farting—all done publicly and together.
He used to do power naps while snoring in the office when he was tired. Whether I had students around didn’t bother or interest him at all.
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chand19869 Oct 2018 09:34Zaba12 schrieb:
This means that 1/5 of the world’s population is now considered antisocial by @montessaletIf they continue like this here, even though they have been made aware of the differing perspectives, that is antisocial behavior. In China, this is socially accepted and does not bother me, as long as I am there.
Adapting one’s behavior to the local rules of the place you are in—that can’t be such a difficult concept, can it?
chand1986 schrieb:
But the tea bags are disposed of in the bin, or are they simply left on the table or floor? That’s the point. Before separating wasterecycling, you first need a wastebin as the initial step.Tea bags tend to be left in the sink. Alongside the dirty dishes that are on the empty dishwasher.By the way – where can you get a freestanding ashtray as cheaply as possible? I was just thinking in the past few days that we need something like that on the construction site. Or do you just put a bucket of sand on something for that purpose?
Kekse schrieb:
Tea bags tend to be left in the sink, next to the dirty dishes that are on the empty dishwasher.
By the way – where can you get a freestanding ashtray as cheaply as possible? I was just thinking the other day that we need something like that for the construction site. Or do you simply place a bucket with sand on something?We had the KG pipe covers – do we still have one here?