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I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
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R.Hotzenplotz7 Oct 2018 16:46General waste is not the major issue. Poroton bricks, metal parts, and Styrofoam remnants are clearly identifiable.
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Obstlerbaum7 Oct 2018 16:57What did your construction company say about that? Before asking in the forum, I would have called them first. A lawyer is always an option, but is it really worth it?
The work was done very neatly here, and everyone has taken their own debris with them so far.
What we did: I collected a bag full of styrofoam scraps -> yellow bag
One afternoon, we cleared the garage and driveway of (many) nails and (a few) pieces of plaster, some wood fragments, small metal parts, etc. That was about 3 buckets of plaster, which we then disposed of as regular waste, and that was that.
What we did: I collected a bag full of styrofoam scraps -> yellow bag
One afternoon, we cleared the garage and driveway of (many) nails and (a few) pieces of plaster, some wood fragments, small metal parts, etc. That was about 3 buckets of plaster, which we then disposed of as regular waste, and that was that.
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R.Hotzenplotz7 Oct 2018 17:33Obstlerbaum schrieb:
What did your construction company say about this? Before asking in the forum, I would have called them first. A lawyer is always an option, but is it really worth it?Why a lawyer? If I withhold payment because something isn’t done properly, it’s not me who needs a lawyer, but the contractor, if they believe I’m wrongly holding back money.
The general contractor said that the landscaper should just mix the leftover Poroton bricks into the soil during earthworks, and do the same with the cigarette butts. That’s normal, and he has never heard otherwise. The landscaper, on the other hand, says he often has these issues, and only when homeowners withhold payment does it work properly on some projects.
Müllerin schrieb:
It was about 3 buckets of plaster, which went into our regular trash, and that was that.I wouldn’t have any problem with something like that either.
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R.Hotzenplotz7 Oct 2018 17:38Zaba12 schrieb:
If it’s not stated in your contract and you haven’t commissioned it, then it will be your responsibility. Just like mine and every other new homeowner’s.So, do you believe that the quote I referred to earlier is incorrect? If so, what is your reasoning? Also, why would everyone bother to clean up at all if they’re not required to?
I just found this on a relevant website:
“According to VOB/C, the disposal of waste generated by the contractor’s work as well as the removal of any contamination caused by the contractor’s activities are incidental services that are included in the contractual scope, even if not explicitly mentioned in the contract.”