ᐅ Single-family detached house, townhouse style, approximately 180 sqm, plus a 70 sqm accessory apartment – open floor plan
Created on: 1 Jun 2021 21:58
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Gobi1307
Hello everyone,
my wife (28) and I (34) are currently finalizing the planning for our single-family house with a separate apartment.
I have read a lot in this forum in the past to get inspiration for designing the perfect floor plan for us. I hope the information below is sufficient; otherwise, I’m happy to provide more details.
Brief explanations:
Once the first draft from the architect is available, I will of course upload it.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1028 sqm (11062 sq ft)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Floor space index: 0.6
Building zone, building line, and boundary: 15*~28 m (49*~92 ft)
Perimeter development
Number of parking spaces: 1 per dwelling unit according to the development plan
Number of floors: 2 for the main house, 1 for the separate apartment
Roof type: hip roof or flat roof
Style:
Orientation: south, southwest
Maximum heights/limits:
Other requirements: open construction style, two stories
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: townhouse style, hip roof
Basement, number of floors: yes, possibly partial basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults (34, 28), 1 baby, another child planned
Room requirements on ground and upper floors:
Ground floor – living room, kitchen, storage room, office, guest toilet;
Upper floor – child 1, child 2, master bedroom, dressing room + storage, master bathroom, children’s bathroom
Office use: home office
Guests per year: 0
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/audio system: 5.1 surround system
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: possibly later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain features are preferred or excluded
House Design
Who designed the plan: DIY, architect
-Builder’s planner
-Architect
-Do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why? Open construction style, orientation, cantilever staircase
What do you dislike? Why? Access to the basement is currently not ideal
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 600,000 (currency not specified)
Personal budget limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: geothermal energy with ring trench, heat pump, underfloor heating, ventilation system
If you have to give up on something, which details or features
-could you give up on: gallery
-could you not give up on: open construction style
Why did the design turn out the way it is now?
Own preferences and thoughts, research of many floor plans. Separate apartment distinct from the main house.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Is the room layout sensible? Any clever ideas? General feedback on potential issues. Open criticism welcome, I appreciate all hints.
Thank you in advance.
Tobi
my wife (28) and I (34) are currently finalizing the planning for our single-family house with a separate apartment.
I have read a lot in this forum in the past to get inspiration for designing the perfect floor plan for us. I hope the information below is sufficient; otherwise, I’m happy to provide more details.
Brief explanations:
- Plot size 775
- The separate apartment is required because otherwise, we would not be able to acquire the plot. The current owners of the property (an old building that needs to be demolished) will live in the separate apartment and pay us monthly rent.
- We would prefer the basement stairs to be in the storage room, but this might be too tight. Therefore, the basement stairs may be planned above the office. Exact dimensions and feasibility are currently being checked by the architect.
- There is a guest coatroom at the entrance; the family coatroom will be designed as a built-in wardrobe in the hallway to the garage.
- The storage room marked in red is correct, we had to move the stairs slightly to the right 🙂
- Not all doors are currently shown, sorry.
- Laundry chutes planned in the master and children’s bathrooms.
- Orientation was not quite right and was adjusted afterward 🙂
Once the first draft from the architect is available, I will of course upload it.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1028 sqm (11062 sq ft)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Floor space index: 0.6
Building zone, building line, and boundary: 15*~28 m (49*~92 ft)
Perimeter development
Number of parking spaces: 1 per dwelling unit according to the development plan
Number of floors: 2 for the main house, 1 for the separate apartment
Roof type: hip roof or flat roof
Style:
Orientation: south, southwest
Maximum heights/limits:
Other requirements: open construction style, two stories
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: townhouse style, hip roof
Basement, number of floors: yes, possibly partial basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults (34, 28), 1 baby, another child planned
Room requirements on ground and upper floors:
Ground floor – living room, kitchen, storage room, office, guest toilet;
Upper floor – child 1, child 2, master bedroom, dressing room + storage, master bathroom, children’s bathroom
Office use: home office
Guests per year: 0
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/audio system: 5.1 surround system
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: possibly later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain features are preferred or excluded
House Design
Who designed the plan: DIY, architect
-Builder’s planner
-Architect
-Do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why? Open construction style, orientation, cantilever staircase
What do you dislike? Why? Access to the basement is currently not ideal
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 600,000 (currency not specified)
Personal budget limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: geothermal energy with ring trench, heat pump, underfloor heating, ventilation system
If you have to give up on something, which details or features
-could you give up on: gallery
-could you not give up on: open construction style
Why did the design turn out the way it is now?
Own preferences and thoughts, research of many floor plans. Separate apartment distinct from the main house.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Is the room layout sensible? Any clever ideas? General feedback on potential issues. Open criticism welcome, I appreciate all hints.
Thank you in advance.
Tobi
Now I was confused...
Your “775” touches the corner of the neighbor’s garage. Therefore, I assumed a different plot of land.
I miscounted :P It was 3.50m (11.5 ft) for me. 4 meters (13 ft) is enough.
That reminds me of @driver55, who already pointed out in another thread that you shouldn’t be stingy with measurements and details.
I want to explicitly add again that you should place the house in the site plan for yourself (if not only for us) to see how it fits and what options remain.
That’s clear...
Large enough for standard furnishing: a bed with 220cm (87 inches) length and 2m (6.5 ft) width, a wardrobe of 3 linear meters (10 ft) with 60cm (24 inches) depth, and enough space between bed and wardrobe to walk. According to my rough estimate, about 3.50m (11.5 ft) minimum.
Yep. If that’s your wish...
Starting over results in new possibilities and improvements.
Gobi1307 schrieb:
from which you are currently approaching the main entrance of the single-family house.
Gobi1307 schrieb:
The driveway to the garage is relatively normal; I roughly marked the current driveway.
Your “775” touches the corner of the neighbor’s garage. Therefore, I assumed a different plot of land.
Gobi1307 schrieb:
The staircase is too short? Honestly, the dimension of the staircase comes from the architect: 4m long and 1m tread width.
I miscounted :P It was 3.50m (11.5 ft) for me. 4 meters (13 ft) is enough.
That reminds me of @driver55, who already pointed out in another thread that you shouldn’t be stingy with measurements and details.
I want to explicitly add again that you should place the house in the site plan for yourself (if not only for us) to see how it fits and what options remain.
Gobi1307 schrieb:
The idea was to go directly from the garage into the storage room ->
That’s clear...
Gobi1307 schrieb:
How much bigger should the bedroom in the granny flat be?
Large enough for standard furnishing: a bed with 220cm (87 inches) length and 2m (6.5 ft) width, a wardrobe of 3 linear meters (10 ft) with 60cm (24 inches) depth, and enough space between bed and wardrobe to walk. According to my rough estimate, about 3.50m (11.5 ft) minimum.
Gobi1307 schrieb:
And then only use the main entrance?
Yep. If that’s your wish...
ypg schrieb:
I would plan the house a bit wider. As it is, it is rather "insufficient". But this is not possible because of the building window/planning permission. I would start over.
Starting over results in new possibilities and improvements.
Without having counted and calculated the boxes exactly, it feels like 60% of the ground floor is taken up by the office, storage, cloakroom, and circulation areas...
This makes the kitchen, dining, and living areas feel somewhat cramped. (I’ve mentioned this before with another floor plan. 3 meters (10 feet) per unit is too little when the total area is 180 square meters (1,938 square feet). Ypg has already pointed this out.)
Guest cloakroom/family cloakroom take up unnecessary space!
You do have a basement.
There’s still a lot to do.
This makes the kitchen, dining, and living areas feel somewhat cramped. (I’ve mentioned this before with another floor plan. 3 meters (10 feet) per unit is too little when the total area is 180 square meters (1,938 square feet). Ypg has already pointed this out.)
Guest cloakroom/family cloakroom take up unnecessary space!
You do have a basement.
There’s still a lot to do.
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hanghaus20005 Jun 2021 18:32ypg schrieb:
I want to explicitly add that it’s useful to place the house on the site plan yourself (if not just for us) to see how it fits and where there might still be options.
I also see that as a fundamental step.
@Gobi1307
Where is north on the plot?
Knowing the length of at least one side of the property would also help.
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hanghaus20005 Jun 2021 18:47With these dimensions, it should just fit on the plot. It’s easier to draw once I have the exact lengths.
Hello everyone,
after the comment regarding the size of the kitchen, dining, and living areas, we took another look at it with that in mind and agree with you. We are currently considering how to make changes and will share the new idea soon.
hanghaus2000
I had the orientation in the first draft at the top left of the image.
As you drew it, it doesn’t fit. We would like to rotate it 90 degrees (garage driveway and main entrance facing the street at the top). I know we are going 2m (6.5 feet) beyond the building boundary, but in initial discussions with the city, we were told this should not be a problem since many other houses also extend beyond it. The garage is allowed to be built outside the building envelope.
As soon as I have news, I will upload it to discuss again.
I like the discussion and it has already brought significant results, thanks for that 🙂
after the comment regarding the size of the kitchen, dining, and living areas, we took another look at it with that in mind and agree with you. We are currently considering how to make changes and will share the new idea soon.
hanghaus2000
I had the orientation in the first draft at the top left of the image.
As you drew it, it doesn’t fit. We would like to rotate it 90 degrees (garage driveway and main entrance facing the street at the top). I know we are going 2m (6.5 feet) beyond the building boundary, but in initial discussions with the city, we were told this should not be a problem since many other houses also extend beyond it. The garage is allowed to be built outside the building envelope.
As soon as I have news, I will upload it to discuss again.
I like the discussion and it has already brought significant results, thanks for that 🙂
H
hanghaus20005 Jun 2021 23:34The floor plans do not match the design. I don’t understand it. Please clarify.
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