ᐅ Recommendations for General Contractors in the Heidelberg Area

11ant schrieb:

I meant that a tender will show whether general contractors (GCs) will respond (based on experience, this usually happens if you follow my recommendation not to exclude such applications). Typically, the invitation to tender is issued by the designing architect. You can also be assisted by other service providers— as long as it’s not the one chosen in the thread https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausfuehrungsplaene-geaendert-ohne-absprache.41669/. I personally don’t have free capacity for this at the moment (currently, I wouldn’t be available before Carnival).

Then these friends made (unfortunate, but simple and avoidable) mistakes in their tenders.

Preparing tenders requires more experience than (technical) expertise. That’s more relevant during construction management, which I also recommend assigning to the designing architect—but there are also independent specialists available.

*ROTFL* *SCNR* you should explain in more detail what you mean by a "so to speak existing" lot (?)

I don’t recall reading about Geiser here yet (nor have I met them personally), and as far as I remember, @Curly had a positive experience building with WETON (and I tend to also consider them recommendable).

Thanks for the information; however, building with an architect is still not an option for me. Thanks to your link, I also came across Massivhaus Wonnegau and Kreativ Massivhaus. I will take a closer look at these providers. It seems that people generally have positive experiences with them.

Peter_81 schrieb:

Thanks to your link, I also came across Massivhaus Wonnegau and Kreativ Massivhaus.

You’re welcome. I just double-checked whether the references for Wonnegau are still as reliably verifiable as I praised them nineteen months ago – and they still are 🙂

Peter_81 schrieb:

Building with an architect is still not an option for me.

Would you mind explaining why, for the benefit of other interested readers?

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11ant schrieb:

Gladly. I just checked again to see if the references from Wonnegau are still as reliably verifiable as I praised them nineteen months ago – and they are 🙂

For the benefit of interested readers, please explain why.

I mentioned the reasons earlier. Construction costs with architects have without exception skyrocketed among my circle of friends, whether it was a new build or a major renovation. Either the planning was poor or the initial estimates were too optimistic. Based on these experiences, I do not feel comfortable building with an architect, so that option is definitely ruled out for me.

Oh, now I really have to ask you to clear up the confusion:

You last said ...

Peter_81 schrieb:

I mentioned the reasons earlier. The costs when building with architects have without exception exploded within my circle of friends. Whether it was a new build or a major renovation. Either the planning was poor or the initial estimate was overly optimistic. Based on these experiences, I don’t feel comfortable building with an architect, so that is definitely ruled out for me.

... and earlier:

Peter_81 schrieb:

Managing trades yourself? If yes, that is definitely not an option for me. I have gathered too many bad experiences with that through friends. Prices sometimes exploded during construction.

So you said earlier that managing the trades yourself was not an option for you because it became too expensive for your friends. And now you give the same reason for building with an architect.

If both are true at the same time, then planning with an architect and self-managing the execution must have unexpectedly become expensive in the end. That can only mean that reality exceeded the cost estimate. Which architects this applies to, I just explained again this week, namely: 1. those with little experience due to very recent self-employment; 2. those with little experience because they returned directly to university as lecturers after graduation (and only occasionally plan a single-family house as a side job); 3. those with outdated experience because they are basically already retired.

But I just advised you against exactly this double error combination. Instead, the recommended procedure is: planning, tendering, and construction supervision all through the same architect. This immediately filters out the "only up to phase 4" types. And a professional tender avoids the typical, classic, and unfortunately frequent mistakes when awarding contracts by non-professionals. "Architect only up to the building permit / planning permission stage, and then getting bids yourself" is THE "guaranteed disaster combination" – which is why I never tire of warning against it.

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Peter_81 schrieb:

I mentioned the reasons earlier.

No problem. Only @11ant wants such explanations in the discussion 😉
Unfortunately, I can’t help you further. I’m trying to bump the post with my message, which I think is in the wrong subforum. But anyway, good luck 🙂

ypg schrieb:

Only @11ant wants such explanations in a dialogue

..., which I am not pursuing out of curiosity, but as a reflex to help the original poster recognize their logical errors (which, based on experience, usually lie behind contradictions).

ypg schrieb:

which in my opinion is in the wrong subforum.

I thought so at first too – until I realized that the forum categories here have been "cleaned up beyond recognition" (also due to thread moves and renaming) :-(

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