ᐅ Quotation for Architect-Designed House, 150 sqm / 750,000 Euros

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bubabo schrieb:
Hello, I would like to get your opinion:
Project: detached single-family house on a 600 sqm (about 6460 sq ft) plot (fully serviced, completely flat) in a suburb of Freiburg, Bauhaus style, 150 sqm (about 1615 sq ft) living area, slab-on-grade foundation – no basement, underfloor heating, air-to-water heat pump with solar support, 2 modern bathrooms each with a shower, high-quality parquet flooring/large-format porcelain tiles, two-tone triple glazing with electric external blinds, oversized double garage with electric sectional door, etc.
Quote from an architecture office: total price €750,000 – WITHOUT land and WITHOUT landscaping
...I am a bit shocked....

Um, 750k??? We are building almost the same (except not Bauhaus style), with all the extras and nice-to-haves, but with 280 sqm (about 3014 sq ft) for 540k...

raffa schrieb:
This confirms my impression that most architects are unfortunately useless!
How many cubic meters of volume were assumed? We were told back then that you should expect to budget around €420-450 per m³ (about $400-430 per cubic yard) for a standard finish, plus architect fees and the land cost. That seemed reasonable.

We also had several discussions at the time... most architects are so out of touch and arrogant... unbelievable! Others are eco-fanatics pushing you to build a KFW40-standard house no matter what. I recommend finding an architect who has a reliable network of craftsmen that they work with regularly. They manage them better—both in terms of scheduling and quality. For you, that means more planning certainty, faster completion... and cost overruns of maybe "only" 10% instead of 20% 😉

And what did you end up paying per m³ (cubic meter)?

I always get the impression that the unit € per m³ (cubic meter) is used in quotes precisely where comparability is meant to be made more difficult.

What really matters to you is the living area, whether you have a 2.75 m (9 feet) ceiling or 3.50 m (11.5 feet) is initially irrelevant.

The other way around applies here: the cubic meter measurement is actually the more professional one since it accounts for the built volume, not just the floor area. The square meter measurement is more familiar to laypeople’s way of thinking and is therefore more popular.

Egon12 schrieb:
What matters to you is the living area; whether you have a 2.75 m (9 ft) ceiling or 3.50 m (11.5 ft) is initially irrelevant.

Whether you want to use your basement as living space is not only a matter of fittings and insulation but also of ceiling height. For storing potatoes, a height of twelve (approximately 4 ft) is enough so you can enter the storage cellar without hitting your head. That extra half meter (1.6 ft) of height isn’t given for free, even with surface-mounted light switches.

Egon12 schrieb:
I always get the impression that the unit € per m³ is used in offers where they want to make comparisons harder.

Comparability is obscured elsewhere: when provider X calculates according to the living space regulation and provider Y according to the DIN standard.

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Hello, I have no idea how these prices are calculated, but they seem far too high to me. 150 square meters (1,615 square feet) is not exactly a large size, so I would want to see more details or seriously doubt that this is a realistic price.