ᐅ Quotation for Architect-Designed House, 150 sqm / 750,000 Euros
Created on: 25 Aug 2017 12:03
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bubabo
Hello, I would like to get your opinion:
Project: Detached single-family house on a 600 sqm (6,458 sq ft) plot (fully serviced, perfectly flat) in a suburb of Freiburg, Bauhaus style, 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) living space, slab-on-grade foundation - no basement, underfloor heating with an air heat pump supported by solar energy, 2 modern bathrooms each with a shower, high-quality parquet flooring / porcelain tiles, two-tone triple glazing with electric external blinds, oversized double garage with electric sectional door, etc.
Offer from an architectural firm: total price €750,000 – WITHOUT land and WITHOUT exterior landscaping
…I am a bit shocked…
Project: Detached single-family house on a 600 sqm (6,458 sq ft) plot (fully serviced, perfectly flat) in a suburb of Freiburg, Bauhaus style, 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) living space, slab-on-grade foundation - no basement, underfloor heating with an air heat pump supported by solar energy, 2 modern bathrooms each with a shower, high-quality parquet flooring / porcelain tiles, two-tone triple glazing with electric external blinds, oversized double garage with electric sectional door, etc.
Offer from an architectural firm: total price €750,000 – WITHOUT land and WITHOUT exterior landscaping
…I am a bit shocked…
sven.conzi25 Aug 2017 14:07bubabo schrieb:
....I had estimated €3000 per square meter (approximately $279 per square foot) plus architect feesSo even €3000 is quite a significant amount, in my opinion.D
daniels8725 Aug 2017 15:28750k.. really disproportionate. With that you can get 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) including a basement, pool, landscaping, plus a cleaning service and gardener for at least 20 years :p
Zaba12 schrieb:
The fee seems appropriate so far, at least based on the amount mentioned. What figure were you assuming?For a single-family house, fee zone 3 with the minimum rate is, in my opinion, reasonable, with a maximum of one-fourth of the full rate. If the architect already estimates a single-family house to fall into zone 4, they are either someone who can charge such rates (though is that really necessary?), or there has been a significant misunderstanding.
Often, when the word “Bauhaus” is used, a much higher construction cost is assumed, and the architect’s fee increases accordingly—in zone 4 in particular.
bubabo schrieb:
...Bauhaus style. Cubic cube with recessed double garage and flat roof. Interior finishes of a high standard – but definitely NOT luxury. ....There are some subtle terms in there that tell the architect they can really charge a premium 🙂
In that case, "not luxury" tends to be ignored.
"Standard quality" and "modern construction with flat roof" should be enough for the next architect going forward 😉
That confirms my impression that unfortunately most architects aren’t worth much!
What volume in cubic meters was assumed? We were told back then that you should generally budget around 420-450€ per cubic meter for a standard finish, plus architect’s fees and the land. That sounded reasonable.
We also had some discussions back then... most of them are so aloof and arrogant... unbelievable! Others are eco-zealots trying to sell you a KFW40 house no matter what. I recommend finding an architect who has a reliable network of craftsmen they work with regularly. They manage them better—both in terms of scheduling and quality. For you, this means more reliable planning, faster completion, and cost overruns of maybe “only” 10% instead of 20% 😉
What volume in cubic meters was assumed? We were told back then that you should generally budget around 420-450€ per cubic meter for a standard finish, plus architect’s fees and the land. That sounded reasonable.
We also had some discussions back then... most of them are so aloof and arrogant... unbelievable! Others are eco-zealots trying to sell you a KFW40 house no matter what. I recommend finding an architect who has a reliable network of craftsmen they work with regularly. They manage them better—both in terms of scheduling and quality. For you, this means more reliable planning, faster completion, and cost overruns of maybe “only” 10% instead of 20% 😉
raffa schrieb:
Others are eco-fascists who want to sell you a KFW40 house at all costs. This is no longer about the devil, this is already the Oettinger: when a house contains more petrochemical-based materials than anything else, it is quite the opposite of eco-friendly.
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