I haven’t built one myself (unfortunately), but I have closely followed how several of these houses were constructed in our new development area. I’m not familiar with the providers mentioned. In our case, the company was ISO-Massivhaus. Some homeowners built parts themselves, while others had the houses delivered as turnkey projects. Depending on how much effort the homeowner put in, the construction went faster or slower. I know almost all the homeowners, and honestly, I’m a bit jealous of how low their heating costs are... ****** The costs certainly depend on how much you do yourself.
I looked at Mercado’s website, and in a video, the Magu wall system is shown in various versions, as well as a brief view of the Styro Stone system during concreting.
I think if you want to build on your own using the adult "Lego," buying the material directly from the manufacturer with price negotiation and hiring a guide from the manufacturer for two or three days, then building affordably and with high quality can work.
I think if you want to build on your own using the adult "Lego," buying the material directly from the manufacturer with price negotiation and hiring a guide from the manufacturer for two or three days, then building affordably and with high quality can work.
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Willi Wacker19 Feb 2011 13:39Price inquiries directly from the manufacturer are nice, but as a private customer, you either won’t be supplied at all or you won’t get the same prices as a contractor. Of course, the contractor also has to make a living. But they also provide support, guideposts (very important!), advice, warranty, do quantity calculations, and take back excess materials. Overall, definitely the better choice.
The representative from ISO-Massivhaus told me that he is regularly asked for help by self-builders who struggle to progress without a supervisor. There are probably a few things you can do wrong, for example when pouring concrete. You’d rather have a professional there, wouldn’t you?
The representative from ISO-Massivhaus told me that he is regularly asked for help by self-builders who struggle to progress without a supervisor. There are probably a few things you can do wrong, for example when pouring concrete. You’d rather have a professional there, wouldn’t you?
There are quite a few suppliers who deliver directly to the builder and also provide quantity calculations. The future homeowner then gets a kit price.
I keep wondering where the problem is in getting the stone price per square meter or a kit price upon request from the house providers. The simple answer is that I then see how much the supplier adds to the kit price for their so-called service (what they want to earn), and this can be so substantial that doing the work yourself hardly makes sense. It should be simple and quick to lay the bricks, so the labor costs for a guide should not be that high.
Alignment supports cost about 300 € (approximately $320), and the guide about 200 - 300 € (approximately $210 - $320) per day. Six days at 300 € per day is 1,800 € (about $1,920) plus the alignment supports—that’s already a significant amount.
If the kit price also includes a margin for the service (for the office, brochures, etc.), it becomes clear why it’s better to bundle everything into a worry-free package.
At building material suppliers, I can ask for any price, and when buying a car, I’m told what the extras cost. So, asking “What does the stone package, ceiling, roof structure, or guidance cost?” should not be too much to ask for if I want to save money with my own labor. If I don’t get an answer, I look for a supplier who will give me a price. Almost every stone manufacturer surely has a partner who can provide this information.
It is the homeowners’ money; the customer is king. And I stand by it: without knowing the individual prices for walls, ceilings, roof structure, and services, I won’t build a house.
I keep wondering where the problem is in getting the stone price per square meter or a kit price upon request from the house providers. The simple answer is that I then see how much the supplier adds to the kit price for their so-called service (what they want to earn), and this can be so substantial that doing the work yourself hardly makes sense. It should be simple and quick to lay the bricks, so the labor costs for a guide should not be that high.
Alignment supports cost about 300 € (approximately $320), and the guide about 200 - 300 € (approximately $210 - $320) per day. Six days at 300 € per day is 1,800 € (about $1,920) plus the alignment supports—that’s already a significant amount.
If the kit price also includes a margin for the service (for the office, brochures, etc.), it becomes clear why it’s better to bundle everything into a worry-free package.
At building material suppliers, I can ask for any price, and when buying a car, I’m told what the extras cost. So, asking “What does the stone package, ceiling, roof structure, or guidance cost?” should not be too much to ask for if I want to save money with my own labor. If I don’t get an answer, I look for a supplier who will give me a price. Almost every stone manufacturer surely has a partner who can provide this information.
It is the homeowners’ money; the customer is king. And I stand by it: without knowing the individual prices for walls, ceilings, roof structure, and services, I won’t build a house.
MR.N schrieb:
Hello.
I am a construction supervisor and have already built several houses of this type.
There are so many questions open here that I can’t answer them all at once.
If you have questions, write to me.
Best regards, MR.N
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Hello Mr. N.,
If you are a construction supervisor, you can also answer the open questions here in the forum; after all, this forum serves to inform potential homeowners. However, if you want to use this forum to find new clients, our admin will understandably not appreciate that, as it only provides partial information to users rather than comprehensive help. Additionally, I think it would be good if you, as a construction supervisor, posted here openly, meaning with your real name. Nicknames leave a questionable impression as to whether the person behind them is truly on the homeowners’ side.
Kind regards, Construction ExpertHello Construction Expert,
I am definitely not using this forum to find new clients. The thing is, many homeowners don’t really understand what construction supervision involves, and I simply want to offer them help and good advice without personal gain, because every construction company operates differently. My name is M. Niesen, and I am from near the Lower Rhine region.
Best regards, MR.N
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Bauexperte31 Mar 2011 11:24Hello Mr. N.,
That’s a good approach; we can always use helpful support in the best interest of the users here.
Kind regards and welcome to the club
MR.N schrieb:
The thing is that many homeowners don’t actually know what construction supervision is, and I simply want to offer assistance and good advice to homeowners without any personal profit because every construction company operates differently.
That’s a good approach; we can always use helpful support in the best interest of the users here.
Kind regards and welcome to the club
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