ᐅ Main Pipeline Layout – Wastewater Drainage and Elevation Planning

Created on: 24 Sep 2020 19:39
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Tolentino
Hello dear forum members,

I have now received a preliminary draft of the detailed construction plan. This will be adjusted again after the structural engineering calculations are completed, if necessary, and then finalized. Until then, I have time to consider whether everything makes sense as it is.

Below you can see first a site plan (from the building permit / planning permission) and a section from the draft ground drainage plan by the construction manager. Please note that the plans have different orientations, but I have added the north arrows anew in each case. In the ground drainage plan, I have marked the natural ground level (GFL) as an orange rectangle.

As you can see, the draft proposes that the wastewater pipes be combined and routed downward on the plan — that is, towards the neighboring property at the back, away from the street. This would require me to make one more directional change. The construction manager’s reasoning was that pipes should always be routed under the foundation slab on the shortest possible path because they are inaccessible afterward. That makes sense. However, looking at where the pipes come down elsewhere, is this really the average shortest route? There are more drainage pipes lying closer to the GFL strip; only the kitchen drain would be further away. Considering the longer pipe run for the main line and the additional required direction change, wouldn’t it be more sensible to route it to the right side of the plan (in the ground drainage plan) or upwards in the site plan?

The second topic is the height of the wastewater pipe. Here, the outlet height from the foundation slab is set at approximately 70 cm (28 inches) — I still need to confirm with respect to which height this refers; I assume the foundation slab’s top or underside. This is generally a standard height for wastewater pipes, but since the intended pipe route runs along the GFL, which also serves as the shared driveway for my neighbor and me, meaning it is a trafficked area, it is recommended to place the pipe deeper — from what I gather, about 150 cm (59 inches). Should I inform the general contractor about this now, or is it possible to add another step before the GFL? Especially because the existing wastewater shaft (see the west corner on the site plan) is to be used, and the pipe will have to cover a good distance of about 40 m (130 feet) to get there, the question about the actually necessary minimum height is important. The wastewater shaft is roughly 1.8 m (71 inches) deep. So, this roughly matches, but only if I can start on my preferred side of the house. If I have to go around the house, I would reach the shaft too low.

Do you have any ideas, suggestions, or remarks?

Thanks and best regards

Tolentino

Lageplan: Wohnhaus II (M Wa), Garage, Trennstück A, Abwasserschacht, Terrassen.


Lageplan: Gebäude mit Strom/Telekom, Abwasser; roter Bereich = GFL-Recht/Alternative Abwasserführung
Nida35a12 Oct 2020 15:09
Demolition, waste disposal, leveling the construction site, establishing a construction road with a 40cm (16 inches) base, digging trenches and laying pipes up to 1.5m (5 feet) deep, creating and compacting a recycled construction access road 1m (3 feet) before the building site, approximately 30,000 Euros
Nida35a12 Oct 2020 15:11
The groundworks contractor from the general contractor already estimated about €45,000, but that includes 80 sqm (860 sq ft) of asbestos.
Tolentino12 Oct 2020 15:32
Wow, that’s quite affordable. How long ago was that?
Demolition and disposal plus site preparation are also included for almost the same price in my case.
But not the plumbing.
Nida35a12 Oct 2020 16:13
Jan-March 2018
Tolentino12 Oct 2020 16:16
Cool, thanks.
Okay, so it has been quite a while.
Was the piping work along with the related earthworks listed separately by any chance?
That would be very interesting for me going forward.
Nida35a12 Oct 2020 16:21
No flat rate,
it would have been more expensive individually, and this way the equipment was already on site.