ᐅ L-shaped house on a trapezoidal plot of land

Created on: 21 Feb 2021 10:23
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Tejasvini
[A friendly hello] to the forum community from the tri-border area A/CH/D!

After spending several days browsing here first as a guest and now as a registered user, and wishing some posts were available in book format – so much information, excitement & entertainment – I’ll briefly introduce myself and start my first thread (the first of probably many to come 😉)

The [short] facts about the topic (more detailed info will follow once the first floor plans are ready; I’ll answer the list of questions there since it seems more appropriate):


We have been talking for years about tearing down our parents’ house (about 200 years old, oil and wood stoves only in occupied rooms, not all rooms properly insulated, ceiling and room heights so low it’s frustrating… can you feel my enthusiasm? … but it does have a very nice location – except for the [lovely] relatives who built next door – see attachment) and building something new instead. Finally, *hurray*, we now have a timeline and a budget.
  • The land is in Austria/ Vorarlberg near Lake Constance (no lake view… that would be something), just over 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft) – a large protected area to the southwest – level ground
  • Originally planned about 120 sqm (1,292 sq ft) living space for two people (as mentioned, more details to come… otherwise I’ll probably annoy you a lot in this first post and have many questions later that will keep you busy for a while)
  • Ground floor + 1st floor – no basement – flat roof
  • We will live upstairs and sleep downstairs (that’s a fact; it will be hard to change our minds on that). If necessary, we’ll have a stairlift or a small elevator.

Attached are pictures of the land and our house – the one with the red roof on the *curvy corner* (I can upload photos of the garden and views from the property on request) and my first plans. Honestly, the initial plan was created with an online planner, fully furnished, with decorations, pictures and all my plants – and there are quite a few *gg* . It was quite a challenge remodeling everything every time a wall was changed.

But I’m somewhat teachable and have now gotten a ruler, pencil, and of course an eraser. I’m no longer drawing decorations, and I’ll get graph paper soon, I promise!

I hope you can follow the plan; only the exterior walls are drawn, marked in red on the ground floor and orange hatch for the upper floor. The plot dimensions and the 3 m (10 ft) setback distance are also indicated. South is at the bottom as usual … until now in my plans the bottom was always where I placed the entrance, but as I said, I’m learning…

Now that you’ve had a look here, I’m interested in what you would build differently and how the cost differences are roughly affected by walls with flush corners, more corners and edges, shifted upper floors, etc. The question is less about why the garage length varies or why wall lengths differ from plan to plan, but rather about the basic layout and location and to what extent extras impact costs financially.

I hope I included some informative data (which should be highlighted) and now I’ll let you critique me — I’m really looking forward to your opinions and suggestions so that our first house won’t be built for the enemy…. because building three times is out of the question.

PS: In case no one noticed, I really don’t have a clue about planning, so in plain English: a complete novice 🙂
11ant21 Feb 2021 20:48
Tejasvini schrieb:

Now I understand why you like to know where the plot is located

I hadn’t asked here yet (???) – I left that out because the photos were obviously edited :-(
Basically, I don’t like it when information is omitted or even removed that would have made it easier to help. Sometimes I think some people believe the internet is a wormhole through which you could steal plots if you knew where they were located.
Tejasvini schrieb:

Now I understand why you like to know where the plot is located ... could you tell me if that is a district road ... do we even have such roads in Austria?

I’m not familiar with all the Austrian specifics, but many administrative practices are usually quite similar. In Germany, for example, there are different road classifications related to maintenance responsibilities and consequently to local charges for residents. These classes also affect aspects like the road’s status and where an access point can be located. Your photos show a clearly too small section, and knowing the location would allow me to check it myself on Google Earth. But there are indicators suggesting an initial suspicion that a new access at the district road I suspect here would not be approved.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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ypg
21 Feb 2021 20:59
Tejasvini schrieb:

I think 47 .....

Okay... thanks... to be honest, while reading I sometimes get the impression that a 14-year-old is writing here, planning for their parents (mother issue) and that the brother is the uncle of yours or something... anyway. Fish ponds, mom, soccer, bread and circuses... Easter bunny :p
Tejasvini schrieb:

Then also the brother/mother topic that keeps being hinted at here. Who gets to decide during the planning phase. And who lives there and so on...

Yes, that’s your topic. It’s a bit confusing in a house-building forum. But basically no problem. I just imagine you are the little sister of 11ant, then it all makes sense 🙂
Tejasvini21 Feb 2021 21:01
11ant schrieb:

I hadn’t asked here yet (???) – I held back because the photos were obviously edited :-(

But you can see signs suggesting initial doubts that a new driveway would be approved on the county road I suspect.

No, you didn’t ask … but I also like to look at everything carefully. I just didn’t want to share my address publicly here.
However, I assumed I could send private messages, which unfortunately isn’t possible as a new member.

We will clarify the approval process.
11ant21 Feb 2021 21:10
ypg schrieb:

I just imagine you are 11ant’s little sister, then it all makes sense
(???)
That alone doesn’t make sense because I don’t have a little sister...
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Tejasvini21 Feb 2021 21:45
pagoni2020 schrieb:

That’s why you resist working with an architect like hier 🤨:
pagoni2020 schrieb:

You mention uploaded plans... but all I see are some nice house shapes. The shape mostly results from the floor plan that fits your needs and your living concept. You haven’t shown that yet; simple graph paper would be enough for that. As I wrote before, you should share more personal background and specific details to help others understand better and come up with concrete ideas. Living upstairs might be a must for you, but why? The same goes for other fixed decisions.

Sorry for the delay, there were more questions than I expected. My initial, naive idea was to first gather information about the price differences of extras compared to a more standardized building and then proceed to detailed planning from there.

More personal details and background were planned to be provided in the floor plans section along with the questionnaire. At least that’s what I understood from the forum description, but I may have misunderstood. That will definitely follow in the next few days, along with the budget (which has already been touched on), the timeline, etc.

I’m not opposed to working with an architect. I just thought it was too early to hire one at this stage. In the end, an architect will definitely be involved. But hopefully, by then, I will have gained some solid experience here.

Which questions have I left unanswered? I’ve tried to answer everything.

After the questionnaire and more information about me and my family, everything should be clear.

Coincidentally, today I talked not to an architect but to someone who studied architecture. It was very interesting.

I’m attaching a quick montage I put together.

It looks very similar to mine, just with more extra details.

Abstract 3D block structure made of gray cubes with staggered platforms and cutouts.


Gray 3D block model of an abstract architectural landscape with inclined surfaces.
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ypg
21 Feb 2021 22:54
11ant schrieb:

(???)
No one would do that anyway, especially since I don’t have a little sister ...
Do you believe...