ᐅ Insulating a wooden beam ceiling in the attic

Created on: 11 Sep 2017 17:22
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Matafox
Hello, I’m not sure what to do next. I have read many pages about whether or not to use a vapor barrier. We were advised to lay polystyrene boards on the existing wooden plank floor and then put OSB panels on top. The floor should remain walkable. I am attaching several pictures for better explanation. We have a wooden beam ceiling with “sauerkraut boards” (wood wool boards) in between, and some rubble on top. Now the questions: Should we remove all the wooden planks and install insulation between the beams? Or just lay polystyrene boards on top of the planks and then OSB panels? Do we need a vapor barrier here? If yes, should it be placed on top of the “sauerkraut boards” and then insulation on top? I have no idea what the best solution is, please help!

Dachboden mit staubigem Holzboden, Holzbalken und verstreutem Bauholzschrott.


Dunkler Raum mit bröckelndem Boden aus Holzbrettern, Staub und Geröll; eine weiße Tasse liegt daneben


Dunkler Dachboden mit Staub, Holzbalken und Schutt; roter Metalldeckel liegt auf dem Boden
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Joedreck
5 Nov 2017 18:03
So, the upper floor will be fully heated and fully used?
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Gerry82
5 Nov 2017 18:15
Joedreck schrieb:
So the upper floor will be fully heated and fully used?

Exactly, that’s how it is.
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Joedreck
5 Nov 2017 18:31
Then it is more about soundproofing than insulation, since the upper floor is also part of the thermal envelope.
This is easily achievable without having to worry about mold. However, I don’t have much expertise in this area and prefer to refrain from commenting.
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garfunkel
5 Nov 2017 19:57
Why is the focus more on soundproofing then? He wants to insulate the upper floor from the attic after all.

I definitely wouldn’t use OSB boards as the top layer because they also act as a vapor barrier. This means it would be sealed on the upper side, where it actually needs to be more vapor-permeable. Not ideal, so it’s better to use tongue-and-groove boards with a little gap between the individual planks.

Honestly, I don’t see why it should work without a vapor retarder.

But I’m not an expert.
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Joedreck
5 Nov 2017 20:08
I have now assumed it refers to the intermediate ceiling?

As the top floor ceiling, that’s fine... But then the top layer doesn’t really matter.
In that case, I would probably lean towards cellulose.
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garfunkel
5 Nov 2017 21:50
Okay, now I'm not so sure either. Of course, I am referring to the top floor ceiling.