We are planning a bungalow.
Our builder has offered 1500 € for installing a relatively good satellite dish on the roof.
What do you think of this offer? If I do it myself, what would the cost be?
What is your suggestion?
Best regards
Our builder has offered 1500 € for installing a relatively good satellite dish on the roof.
What do you think of this offer? If I do it myself, what would the cost be?
What is your suggestion?
Best regards
Dipol schrieb:
Good quality solid copper cables cost around €0.90 per meter (about $1.00 per meter), while cheap cables with aluminum shielding—which is prone to breakage and intermodulation—and possibly a steel-cored conductor are about half that price. Although it was actually clear that the price refers to one meter, an added self-quote.
By the way, IEC 60728-11 has also been adopted in Austria as ÖVE-ÖNORM.
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meister keks22 Sep 2017 10:12@Dipol It’s good that you know how to explain things professionally. However, for me, even if this were my area of expertise, it also means being able to explain it to people who are not so familiar with the subject.
I assume you mean the same as I do, just much more expensive.
Of course, my satellite dish is grounded as well; an electrician inspected and connected it.
I’m sure your DIN standards 43527252726 are met too.
By the way, I have never been able to tell on my TV whether it’s using full copper cable or cheaper cables that still provide my TV reception.
Oh, and even the cheap satellite dish withstands storms and hail.
If the LNB ever breaks, I will buy a new, affordable one.
In the end, as a retiree, I still won’t have reached the cost of expensive satellite systems...
But everyone has to decide that for themselves.
I just wanted to let the original poster know that it can also be done more cheaply.
I assume you mean the same as I do, just much more expensive.
Of course, my satellite dish is grounded as well; an electrician inspected and connected it.
I’m sure your DIN standards 43527252726 are met too.
By the way, I have never been able to tell on my TV whether it’s using full copper cable or cheaper cables that still provide my TV reception.
Oh, and even the cheap satellite dish withstands storms and hail.
If the LNB ever breaks, I will buy a new, affordable one.
In the end, as a retiree, I still won’t have reached the cost of expensive satellite systems...
But everyone has to decide that for themselves.
I just wanted to let the original poster know that it can also be done more cheaply.
Meister keks schrieb:
@Dipol it’s good that you know how to write things professionally. For me, however, this also means that if this were my area of expertise, I should be able to explain it to people who are not so familiar with the subject. No one expects a cook to be knowledgeable about antenna and lightning protection technology. How would you react if well-meaning but technically inexperienced amateur cooks commented, overlooking the most important cost factors and safety aspects and recommending only the cheapest ingredients?
Stick to what you know best - shoemaker, stick to your last, and cook, stick to your pot.
Meister keks schrieb:
Of course, my satellite dish is grounded, an electrician inspected and connected it. I don’t know if the approximately 5% compliance rate for antenna installation in Germany applies to Carinthia as well, but I’d bet you a crate of beer blindly that the installation was not done according to ÖVE-EN 60728-11. If you trust electricians’ work without question, you can easily earn (or lose?) that crate by sharing detailed pictures of the grounding conductor connection at the antenna mast, the main equipotential bonding (MEB) / potential equalization assembly (PAS), and grounding blocks/grounding brackets.
Meister keks schrieb:
I guess your DIN standards 43527252726 will also be met. Besides, I have never been able to tell on my TV whether it is connected with pure copper cable or cheaper cables that enable my TV reception. I suspect the cited standards annoy you a lot, whether they are only valid in Germany (DIN-EN/VDE) or harmonized in Carinthia as ÖVE EN 60728-11. If that’s the case: simply don’t read those parts.
Digital signals have only two states: it works or it doesn’t. Since the analog technology shutdown, the eye is no longer a reliable “measuring device” for system quality.
Meister keks schrieb:
I just wanted to inform the thread starter that it can be done cheaper. Without compliant grounding and equipotential bonding, though, that was just another non-compliant suggestion, what in Germany is called an invitation to building hazard.
See also ÖVE technical information, editorial status 2009-12, partly outdated.
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meister keks22 Sep 2017 23:07To cut a long story short, I probably would have lost a case of beer.
Even in the hygiene and cooking area, I would always produce high-quality end products, even if someone provides low-quality ingredients.
Even in the hygiene and cooking area, I would always produce high-quality end products, even if someone provides low-quality ingredients.
Basically, you are both right.
The master described the option as "works fine and is inexpensive," while Dipol presented the option as "works correctly from a technical standpoint but is more expensive due to better components."
In my opinion, Dipol’s correction of the terminology was also helpful to provide readers with the appropriate terms for searching for (construction) parts. Especially since this reveals a more secure installation method.
Ultimately, it is up to the interested reader to decide which option to choose. Based on the possibilities mentioned, including Dipol’s references to the regulations, they can weigh the advantages and disadvantages.
The master described the option as "works fine and is inexpensive," while Dipol presented the option as "works correctly from a technical standpoint but is more expensive due to better components."
In my opinion, Dipol’s correction of the terminology was also helpful to provide readers with the appropriate terms for searching for (construction) parts. Especially since this reveals a more secure installation method.
Ultimately, it is up to the interested reader to decide which option to choose. Based on the possibilities mentioned, including Dipol’s references to the regulations, they can weigh the advantages and disadvantages.
Thank you for your tips.
I plan to do everything myself. I have already selected (but not yet purchased) the roof mounting bracket, mast, dish with LNB, and multiswitch. Installing the satellite system shouldn’t be a problem. Now it’s about a special roof tile with sealing and lightning protection. Can I carry out this work after the bungalow’s construction phase or during the build? How important is the lightning protection? If necessary, can I also do it myself?
Regards
I plan to do everything myself. I have already selected (but not yet purchased) the roof mounting bracket, mast, dish with LNB, and multiswitch. Installing the satellite system shouldn’t be a problem. Now it’s about a special roof tile with sealing and lightning protection. Can I carry out this work after the bungalow’s construction phase or during the build? How important is the lightning protection? If necessary, can I also do it myself?
Regards
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