ᐅ How many square meters can you get for a turnkey KfW40 house with a €150,000 budget?
Created on: 13 Aug 2017 15:56
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LuxSchuss
Hello everyone,
I am very new to the topic of new construction and recently visited a model home park where all the houses are much too large for a couple and children.
Is it realistic to have 100 sqm (approximately 1076 sq ft) or more of living space? Have you ever considered this and had to give up something for reasons you prefer not to mention? What were your reasons? I appreciate any advice and opinions!
Thank you very much,
LuxSchuss
I am very new to the topic of new construction and recently visited a model home park where all the houses are much too large for a couple and children.
Is it realistic to have 100 sqm (approximately 1076 sq ft) or more of living space? Have you ever considered this and had to give up something for reasons you prefer not to mention? What were your reasons? I appreciate any advice and opinions!
Thank you very much,
LuxSchuss
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winnetou7816 Aug 2017 08:21I also wanted to do it that way at first. I work in historic building conservation, but we also have many masons, etc. It wouldn’t be a problem like that, but time is the issue.
Well, if we look at the average across society, we get closest to the actual conditions.
Of course, there are extreme cases where homeowners contribute €100,000 in personal labor; on the other hand, there are just as many who do no personal work at all or only install insulation or help with wiring.
Just as there are homeowners who spent €2,300 per square meter, there are also those who built for €1,300 per square meter.
Any work done by someone unskilled in that specific task is considered helper work and can only be evaluated as such. When I go to work and have others work for me, I know the quality is right and that nothing is being done carelessly.
On top of that, professionals have the right tools and know how to use them properly.
When I see how perfectly the painter finished our walls, we would never have managed that ourselves. And the worst part is, you always focus on the corners where you know things didn’t go perfectly...
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I don’t want to criticize personal labor, but in most cases it is simply overrated.
Of course, there are extreme cases where homeowners contribute €100,000 in personal labor; on the other hand, there are just as many who do no personal work at all or only install insulation or help with wiring.
Just as there are homeowners who spent €2,300 per square meter, there are also those who built for €1,300 per square meter.
Any work done by someone unskilled in that specific task is considered helper work and can only be evaluated as such. When I go to work and have others work for me, I know the quality is right and that nothing is being done carelessly.
On top of that, professionals have the right tools and know how to use them properly.
When I see how perfectly the painter finished our walls, we would never have managed that ourselves. And the worst part is, you always focus on the corners where you know things didn’t go perfectly...
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I don’t want to criticize personal labor, but in most cases it is simply overrated.
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Caspar202016 Aug 2017 08:46Egon12 schrieb:
Any work carried out by an unskilled person for that specific task counts as auxiliary work and can only be rated as such. I go to work and have others work for me, that way I know the quality is right and that no one is just hacking things together.Yes, yes, the myth of quality. We saw it over the weekend. Typically, drywall installations for partition walls are done with double layers if using standard gypsum boards.
In one of our bathrooms, apparently a skilled tradesperson installed one board too few (the entire house was built by an architect together with tradespeople).
Anyway, they double-layered the upper part (where even a layperson can check behind the flush plate), but only used a single layer on the lower part (naturally with an air gap between the metal studs and the drywall).
Over time, the board basically disintegrated... In other words, the toilet suddenly ended up *inside* the wall.
There are very skilled tradespeople; but finding them isn’t easy. There are plenty of companies where apprentices or non-owners just try to get through the day.
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Knallkörper16 Aug 2017 09:38There is probably more poor workmanship from DIY enthusiasts than from professional tradespeople.
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Caspar202016 Aug 2017 10:01Egon12 schrieb:
Well, you can’t always assume sloppy workmanshipBut if I pay craftsmen with hard cash, I get even more frustrated when the work is done carelessly or even botched.
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