Hello everyone,
Today we had a visit from the chimney sweep who took a look at our chimney. Everything is fine. He also gave us some advice on how our fireplace should be sized.
The bottom line: 5 kWh and a properly sized firebox with a large viewing glass.
Otherwise, it should be DIBt approved (room air independent), with a control unit and a glass cleaning system (this air flow technology).
So now we’re looking into options. Since the fireplace will be next to the living room wall unit, I’ve become a bit fond of a suspended fireplace. I think they look less bulky and have glass panels all around. But I’m not sure if that’s really a good idea. Also, I have no idea about the costs. Does anyone have experience with these types?
Or would you recommend a classic fireplace instead?
Today we had a visit from the chimney sweep who took a look at our chimney. Everything is fine. He also gave us some advice on how our fireplace should be sized.
The bottom line: 5 kWh and a properly sized firebox with a large viewing glass.
Otherwise, it should be DIBt approved (room air independent), with a control unit and a glass cleaning system (this air flow technology).
So now we’re looking into options. Since the fireplace will be next to the living room wall unit, I’ve become a bit fond of a suspended fireplace. I think they look less bulky and have glass panels all around. But I’m not sure if that’s really a good idea. Also, I have no idea about the costs. Does anyone have experience with these types?
Or would you recommend a classic fireplace instead?
M
Mottenhausen6 Dec 2019 11:28Exactly, every district chimney sweep master handles this slightly differently. In our case, it was also: controlled residential ventilation present, so a DiBT pressure monitor was mandatory, even if the chimney is certified. Since we needed the pressure monitor anyway, we were able to choose a somewhat cheaper unit from the brand Romotop from the Czech Republic: without DiBT certification. (Of course, approval according to BImSchG 2 and other regulations still had to be in place.)
Another example: some say that only room air-independent tested stoves may be connected to the annular gap supply air (which all newly installed chimneys have). Our chimney sweep said: use it in any case, even if the stove is not room air-independent tested. You just need to know in advance whether you have to install a classic supply air duct under the screed floor leading outside or if you can always connect directly to the chimney.
Therefore, read and follow the chimney sweep’s notice after the shell construction inspection very carefully, and if in doubt, call him directly.
Additionally, it seems that even within the new residential development, he does not make consistent decisions, though this is just a layperson’s perspective. The exact circumstances on site, chimney model, etc., are not known in full detail.
Another example: some say that only room air-independent tested stoves may be connected to the annular gap supply air (which all newly installed chimneys have). Our chimney sweep said: use it in any case, even if the stove is not room air-independent tested. You just need to know in advance whether you have to install a classic supply air duct under the screed floor leading outside or if you can always connect directly to the chimney.
Therefore, read and follow the chimney sweep’s notice after the shell construction inspection very carefully, and if in doubt, call him directly.
Additionally, it seems that even within the new residential development, he does not make consistent decisions, though this is just a layperson’s perspective. The exact circumstances on site, chimney model, etc., are not known in full detail.
Our chimney sweep visited us. So far, everything looks very good. We are allowed to connect anything we want, as long as it is DiBT approved. That was very important to him. He wasn’t too keen on pressure monitors, but I got the impression he would accept them if you don’t challenge him.
In the end, we decided against a suspended fireplace. He said that depending on the model, installation can be quite complicated, and the frame takes up so much space that it would become too tight for us.
So, we looked again and fell in love with the Osorno S from Olsberg. Now we’re on the hunt.
In the end, we decided against a suspended fireplace. He said that depending on the model, installation can be quite complicated, and the frame takes up so much space that it would become too tight for us.
So, we looked again and fell in love with the Osorno S from Olsberg. Now we’re on the hunt.
So, we visited another fireplace retailer who gave us some serious advice. I’m sharing this in case anyone else is facing the same decision.
Basically, three-sided stoves look nice, but the side glass panels, especially the corners, tend to get dirty quickly with soot. He even showed us this on one of the models.
Also, since the stove will be placed right next to our TV, side glass panels are not very practical because the fire’s reflection can be distracting.
So, we had to start over and reconsider our requirements. We don’t always want to stack firewood like a tepee; we also want to be able to lay it across. That means a wider but also tall firebox. This way, we can enjoy the fire more comfortably.
Since we have small kids running or crawling around, it was important to me that the air controls are not easily reachable by children. Our little explorer would be having a blast otherwise. I also preferred a large glass front (preferably with a blackened frame) to make it easier to wipe off little fingerprints from the kids.
The outer casing should be steel, but not too rough for the same reason—fingerprints. Somehow, we quickly landed on the company Cera, which met all our requirements. In the end, we chose the Scusi.
What’s great is that it is shaped like an eye, so it doesn’t look too bulky from the side.
Basically, three-sided stoves look nice, but the side glass panels, especially the corners, tend to get dirty quickly with soot. He even showed us this on one of the models.
Also, since the stove will be placed right next to our TV, side glass panels are not very practical because the fire’s reflection can be distracting.
So, we had to start over and reconsider our requirements. We don’t always want to stack firewood like a tepee; we also want to be able to lay it across. That means a wider but also tall firebox. This way, we can enjoy the fire more comfortably.
Since we have small kids running or crawling around, it was important to me that the air controls are not easily reachable by children. Our little explorer would be having a blast otherwise. I also preferred a large glass front (preferably with a blackened frame) to make it easier to wipe off little fingerprints from the kids.
The outer casing should be steel, but not too rough for the same reason—fingerprints. Somehow, we quickly landed on the company Cera, which met all our requirements. In the end, we chose the Scusi.
What’s great is that it is shaped like an eye, so it doesn’t look too bulky from the side.
M
Mottenhausen16 Dec 2019 15:19The air regulator being within children’s reach is not really an issue; the hot plate is far more critical, but that’s hard to avoid...
But seriously: first, it’s supposed to be a floating design, and then it ends up just being a small standalone heater? It really looks like someone has come back down to earth quite suddenly... (don’t get upset, that happened to (almost) all of us with various decisions during new builds^^ )
But seriously: first, it’s supposed to be a floating design, and then it ends up just being a small standalone heater? It really looks like someone has come back down to earth quite suddenly... (don’t get upset, that happened to (almost) all of us with various decisions during new builds^^ )
Exactly, you said it. Hit the facts head-on. But that’s okay, we are flexible.
I don’t see the hot glass surface as much of a problem. The kids quickly learn to avoid it while it’s on. At first, we might set up a playpen, but we’ll decide that spontaneously.
For us, it’s really the controls that seem magical. When we visit my parents, it feels like the fireplace gets dismantled. Our daughter had just started crawling when she was already reaching for it.
I don’t see the hot glass surface as much of a problem. The kids quickly learn to avoid it while it’s on. At first, we might set up a playpen, but we’ll decide that spontaneously.
For us, it’s really the controls that seem magical. When we visit my parents, it feels like the fireplace gets dismantled. Our daughter had just started crawling when she was already reaching for it.
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