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Created on: 21 Mar 2021 07:31
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Seven1984
Hello everyone,

I would like to hear the forum’s opinion.

I am 36 years old, have one child (6 years old), and although I am fairly well established professionally, I am very dissatisfied. I am a trained IT specialist and studied business informatics (bachelor’s degree) alongside a full-time job. My career steadily progressed. At its peak, I was an IT project manager responsible for an 8 million budget and 70 project team members spread across Europe and Russia. My then superior’s manager wanted to promote me into middle management. I work for a DAX 30 company. That didn’t happen back then, probably partly my fault. I think I also reached my personal limit at that level. That was about 1.5 years ago.

Currently, I have a job that allows me to build my house on the side, which hopefully will be finished at some point ;-) However, it is not satisfying at all, and I no longer really enjoy working in IT. I also expect to be offered a severance package in the next few years (standard procedure in large companies), so I will face the question of what to do next at the latest then. Since I like to take a proactive approach, I am not waiting that long.

IT is no longer an option for me, and I am now exploring long-term alternatives. After all, I plan to live for at least another 50 years, so in my opinion, it’s still worthwhile ;-)

As a child, I had two other career wishes: architect or fully qualified lawyer. Regarding architecture, I could imagine working as a technical expert or construction manager. As a construction manager, my project management skills would probably help, but I would likely have to be self-employed or work for another large corporation. Smaller firms tend to prefer, I think, master bricklayers or craftsmen with stronger hands-on skills. I have no reservations about self-employment but would need to clearly understand my added value and target market if I decide to go that route ;-)

As an architect, I would probably enjoy tasks related to obtaining building permits / planning permission, but I am not sure if I would be good at detailed design work yet ;-)

As a fully qualified lawyer, I would typically plan on working independently. I won’t elaborate on that here since this is not a legal forum.

I have not discussed this much with my personal circle besides my partner...

If you have alternative ideas or suggestions different from mine, feel free to share.

Regards
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HilfeHilfe
23 Mar 2021 06:32
ypg schrieb:

For my salary, you probably wouldn’t even get out of bed in the morning, and no one has to fill out forms for me either. But hey: I’m still happy in my job, I experience success, and I don’t have to take an hourly train commute every day – so I have full free time after work.

Well, I am happy 🙂 I just go with the flow.

But when the project manager asks why the product is still not live in the systems, I say, “Form Z456 still needs to be revised.”

I always say a corporation consists of 40% departments that aren’t really needed. I think Tesla is doing it right.
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Ysop***
23 Mar 2021 06:42
Seven1984 schrieb:

Hello everyone,
Thank you very much for the abundant feedback 🙂
Of course, I’m not making any rushed decisions and I’m thinking things through carefully. I also have a lawyer and a developer among my friends and acquaintances, so I will take a closer look and discuss the whole matter with them. Because of the length of the degree program, it can really only be considered as a part-time option for me. If at all. I’m already familiar with the 98% theory and 2% practical relevance from my previous studies, although maybe that included about 3% more practical work ;-) Real life is just different.
IT in a completely new environment is certainly not a bad idea; maybe it’s simply about the setting. I’ll take that with me!

I wish you all the best of luck. I have to admit, though, that I find it a bit disappointing that the questions and suggestions are no longer being addressed. But perhaps this thread has already developed too much.
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ypg
23 Mar 2021 08:58
Ysop*** schrieb:

I find it unfortunate that the questions and suggestions are no longer being addressed.

He has focused solely on the job profiles and not on the idea of identifying the root causes. We introduced completely wrong lines of thought for him in the thread—he was actually looking for something related to architect/construction manager roles.
I am being somewhat direct and demanding here: anyone who has that aspiration and sees themselves in that role should be active and present here for at least two years, contributing answers about construction topics. Since that is not the case, I do not conclude a genuine passion for the profession but rather a desire for a prestigious job with a good salary. That won’t work out.
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Seven1984
23 Mar 2021 09:33
Ysop*** schrieb:

I definitely wish you good luck. I just have to admit that I find it a pity that the questions and suggestions are no longer being addressed. But maybe the thread has already developed too much here.

Thank you very much. We don’t know each other, and my goal was to get spontaneous ideas from other people based on the few sparse pieces of information I posted.
I have already researched hard facts like the distance learning university Fernuni Hagen and study duration myself. I am mature enough for that ;-) Nevertheless, all the advice is helpful and well-intended. Thanks to everyone for that!
The repeated advice about root cause analysis was especially helpful. I need to go back to square one on that for myself. But of course, the fact that starting fresh at 45 is simply going to be challenging (even if that is logical) was also good to hear ;-)
ypg schrieb:

Because he focused too much on job titles and not on the idea of investigating the root causes. We introduced completely wrong lines of thought for him in this thread—he actually wanted to know something related to architect/construction manager.
I’ll be a bit direct: anyone who has such an aspiration and sees themselves there should at least be present and actively answering questions about building for two years here. Since that’s not the case, I don’t see a passion for the profession, just a desire for a prestigious job with a good salary. That won’t work.

Not necessarily, I didn’t specifically want to know something about architecture or construction management. The direction of the answers was fine for me. I just need to analyze everything further with regard to my situation.
For example, the desired fields mentioned here would strongly support my part-time activities as well. There are certainly solutions that aren’t so absolute in the end.
My greatest professional passion is the stock market. I’ve been active there since I was 16 and have been sufficiently successful for me. I am not planning to expand those activities further, so I didn’t mention them here. Institutionally, however, this area would be too frustrating due to regulation. So it doesn’t fulfill an entire career for me either.
Regarding prestige: I genuinely don’t care what others think of me.
Regarding a good salary: (still) not completely unimportant, but it’s not everything. I also have income from other sources outside of my job.
So it shouldn’t come across like that 🙂 Best regards
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ypg
23 Mar 2021 10:20
Seven1984 schrieb:

part-time activities

As I already said (?):
the desire to be creative is partly linked to not being productive in one’s professional job. This is what people call balance. But the passion for craftsmanship at home is not necessarily what defines a true vocation. According to that, I would be an architect cubed, interior designer, painter, artist, and carpenter all at once. Many people here would be the same.
You still have time and have now gathered enough brainstorming ideas 🙂
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hampshire
23 Mar 2021 15:58
ypg schrieb:

So, that would make me an architect cubed here.
You have many well-thought-out and great ideas here – we would need to invent a professional title and a compensation model for you. The consulting value is easy to communicate and helps homeowners make better decisions. Side job done yourself.