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Created on: 21 Mar 2021 07:31
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Seven1984
Hello everyone,

I would like to hear the forum’s opinion.

I am 36 years old, have one child (6 years old), and although I am fairly well established professionally, I am very dissatisfied. I am a trained IT specialist and studied business informatics (bachelor’s degree) alongside a full-time job. My career steadily progressed. At its peak, I was an IT project manager responsible for an 8 million budget and 70 project team members spread across Europe and Russia. My then superior’s manager wanted to promote me into middle management. I work for a DAX 30 company. That didn’t happen back then, probably partly my fault. I think I also reached my personal limit at that level. That was about 1.5 years ago.

Currently, I have a job that allows me to build my house on the side, which hopefully will be finished at some point ;-) However, it is not satisfying at all, and I no longer really enjoy working in IT. I also expect to be offered a severance package in the next few years (standard procedure in large companies), so I will face the question of what to do next at the latest then. Since I like to take a proactive approach, I am not waiting that long.

IT is no longer an option for me, and I am now exploring long-term alternatives. After all, I plan to live for at least another 50 years, so in my opinion, it’s still worthwhile ;-)

As a child, I had two other career wishes: architect or fully qualified lawyer. Regarding architecture, I could imagine working as a technical expert or construction manager. As a construction manager, my project management skills would probably help, but I would likely have to be self-employed or work for another large corporation. Smaller firms tend to prefer, I think, master bricklayers or craftsmen with stronger hands-on skills. I have no reservations about self-employment but would need to clearly understand my added value and target market if I decide to go that route ;-)

As an architect, I would probably enjoy tasks related to obtaining building permits / planning permission, but I am not sure if I would be good at detailed design work yet ;-)

As a fully qualified lawyer, I would typically plan on working independently. I won’t elaborate on that here since this is not a legal forum.

I have not discussed this much with my personal circle besides my partner...

If you have alternative ideas or suggestions different from mine, feel free to share.

Regards
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HilfeHilfe
22 Mar 2021 05:44
ypg schrieb:

My husband is similar in this regard. However, many aspects are comparable in the public sector (like with me). The advantage there is that you are not under the kind of pressure you experience in a corporation. The pressure is just different.
But many comparisons hold true: employees, team leaders, hierarchy... there are always cases where a colleague passes away on the toilet—heart attack or a similar occupational illness. Could it be related to the corporate environment?!

Sometimes I think that a job with less responsibility plus a part-time role earning around 450€ (about $480) at the local bakery or supermarket is more balanced and pleasant than such a lousy team leader position where you still get praised.

@saralina87
Administrative staff are also found in the police force—in the interesting roles as well.

That’s easy to say. I don’t believe it. As a commercial employee with qualifications and professional experience (even within a corporation), it is very difficult to find a job after 50. That is the experience of some of my husband’s former colleagues who have come to accept this. The system just doesn’t work right now.

My opinion: Administration, commercial employees, media, marketing, IT, medical assistants, etc.—these are all fields where companies can be changed and which can contribute a lot to personal satisfaction.


Yes, sometimes I also feel like I’m in an overpaid public office in our corporation. In order to achieve something productive, 4 fast-track teams and 1,345 DIN A4 pages need to be completed. It doesn’t matter whether it’s just a headline in a chain customer letter or the implementation of a new product.
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Seven1984
22 Mar 2021 07:36
Hello everyone,
thank you very much for the numerous responses :-)
Of course, I’m not rushing into anything and am thinking it through carefully. I also have a lawyer and a property developer among my friends and acquaintances, so I will take a closer look and discuss it with them. Due to the length of the degree program, it can only realistically be done part-time for me. If I decide to go for it. Because I’m already familiar with the 98% theory and 2% practical relevance from my studies, even though there may have been 3% more practical work back then ;-) Real life looks quite different, of course.
IT in a completely new environment is definitely an interesting new direction; maybe it’s simply the environment that matters. I’m taking that with me!
11ant22 Mar 2021 14:30
HilfeHilfe schrieb:

Yes, sometimes within our corporation I feel like I’m working for an overpaid government agency.

As long as you belong to the high A salary grades (better not to be in B, since overtime is not paid extra there), it’s okay.
HilfeHilfe schrieb:

To get anything productive done, four tankless water heater teams and 1345 DIN A4 pages have to be filled out. It doesn’t matter whether it’s just a headline in a chain customer letter or the implementation of a new product.

There is also something liberating about the complete separation of meaning and content. While working, you can keep thinking that you are the only one who notices the daily recurring nonsense and quietly smile at the interactions between the self-driving cyborgs in the corridors, programmed to act as extras in a nonsense daily soap. If everything at work comes from this nonsense parallel world, it just stays there. For example, elderly care workers carry their residents’ fates home with them at the end of their shift. One should be able to genuinely appreciate the privilege of starring in a comedy and being paid more for it than people who take responsibility for meaningful work content. You just consider the salary as a basic income, and get the meaningfulness you want on top during your free time.

I believe that those who draw frustration from the senselessness of working in a corporation simply don’t watch enough "Marienhof".
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant22 Mar 2021 14:35
P.S.: "Girl friends" is currently being re-aired on the ZDF media library ...
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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ypg
22 Mar 2021 23:09
HilfeHilfe schrieb:

Yes, sometimes I also feel like I’m working at an overpaid government office within our corporation.
For my salary, you probably wouldn’t even get up in the morning, and no one has to fill out forms for me either. But hey: I’m still happy with my job, I have successes, and I don’t have to endure an hourly train commute every day – which gives me full free time after work.
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ypg
23 Mar 2021 01:07
... and the best part: I have foresight.
But I can also contribute with narrow-minded thinking and common clichés about the Serbian mentality, if that’s what’s wanted!