ᐅ Floor Plan Assessment – Saving Square Meters in a Single-Family Home
Created on: 20 Mar 2022 10:11
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Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 751 sqm (about 27x27 m / 89x89 ft)
Slope: approximately 1.2 m (4 ft) across the entire width according to the map
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.70
Building window, building line, and boundary: present – accounted for in the plan
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: no regulation
Number of floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor
Roof type: any preferred
Architectural style: any preferred
Orientation: any preferred
Maximum heights / limits:
Additional specifications: basically, you can build as you want... bungalow, Tuscan style, gable roof, hip roof... can stand side by side. Orientation does not matter, etc. I can also send the development plan via private message if desired.
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: gable roof 22°
Basement, number of floors: 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: currently 2... 35 and 38 years old – third person in progress
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: we said 140-150 sqm (about 1500-1600 sq ft) living area
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests per year: 0-2?!
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: optional
Music/system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with workshop since no basement
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: possibly later
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the design: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? shape, exterior appearance, utility room
What do you not like? Why? probably too large/expensive with 168 sqm (about 1810 sq ft)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: none so far
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 450k (without garage, outdoor areas)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump... but possibly mandated district heating... nothing certain yet
If You Have to Give Up Something, which details / extensions
-can you give up:
-can you not give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
Example:
Standard design from planner? no
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? yes
What, in your opinion, makes it particularly good or bad?
We had expressed that it should have 140-150 sqm (about 1500-1600 sq ft) living area (we thought including the utility room) but it is now 168 sqm (about 1810 sq ft).
We would really like a kitchen island, and the kitchen planner noted that for the cabinet run opposite the island, at least 4 m (13 ft) is needed. Here it is 4.08 m (13 ft 5 in), so that is fine. We just suspect the house will go over budget (however, we have not yet received an estimate). It will be built in northeastern Bavaria near the border with the Czech Republic.
We personally see potential savings mainly on the upper floor in the bedroom and bathroom... but then where to reduce space on the ground floor? According to the builder, the staircase is the most space-saving design. We are not fixed on the stair shape.
The utility room is planned to accommodate a central ventilation system, air-to-water heat pump, inverter, and perhaps later a battery storage system. Also, 2 m (6.5 ft) of wall space for various cabinets.
In your opinion, where could space be saved without ending up, for example, with only a 50 cm (20 inch) wide passage in the kitchen and everything feeling cramped?
The garage and outdoor areas are planned to be built in 1-2 years. So currently, it is only about the house itself.
Thank you for your opinions

Plot size: 751 sqm (about 27x27 m / 89x89 ft)
Slope: approximately 1.2 m (4 ft) across the entire width according to the map
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.70
Building window, building line, and boundary: present – accounted for in the plan
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: no regulation
Number of floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor
Roof type: any preferred
Architectural style: any preferred
Orientation: any preferred
Maximum heights / limits:
Additional specifications: basically, you can build as you want... bungalow, Tuscan style, gable roof, hip roof... can stand side by side. Orientation does not matter, etc. I can also send the development plan via private message if desired.
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: gable roof 22°
Basement, number of floors: 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: currently 2... 35 and 38 years old – third person in progress
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: we said 140-150 sqm (about 1500-1600 sq ft) living area
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests per year: 0-2?!
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: optional
Music/system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with workshop since no basement
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: possibly later
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the design: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? shape, exterior appearance, utility room
What do you not like? Why? probably too large/expensive with 168 sqm (about 1810 sq ft)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: none so far
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 450k (without garage, outdoor areas)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump... but possibly mandated district heating... nothing certain yet
If You Have to Give Up Something, which details / extensions
-can you give up:
-can you not give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
Example:
Standard design from planner? no
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? yes
What, in your opinion, makes it particularly good or bad?
We had expressed that it should have 140-150 sqm (about 1500-1600 sq ft) living area (we thought including the utility room) but it is now 168 sqm (about 1810 sq ft).
We would really like a kitchen island, and the kitchen planner noted that for the cabinet run opposite the island, at least 4 m (13 ft) is needed. Here it is 4.08 m (13 ft 5 in), so that is fine. We just suspect the house will go over budget (however, we have not yet received an estimate). It will be built in northeastern Bavaria near the border with the Czech Republic.
We personally see potential savings mainly on the upper floor in the bedroom and bathroom... but then where to reduce space on the ground floor? According to the builder, the staircase is the most space-saving design. We are not fixed on the stair shape.
The utility room is planned to accommodate a central ventilation system, air-to-water heat pump, inverter, and perhaps later a battery storage system. Also, 2 m (6.5 ft) of wall space for various cabinets.
In your opinion, where could space be saved without ending up, for example, with only a 50 cm (20 inch) wide passage in the kitchen and everything feeling cramped?
The garage and outdoor areas are planned to be built in 1-2 years. So currently, it is only about the house itself.
Thank you for your opinions
11ant schrieb:
I already understood that, and when it comes to external thermal insulation composite systems (ETICS) I’m a vegetarian myself. The point was about cladding only the pillar, then it could even be made of calcium silicate brick.Then I misunderstood, sorry 🙂F
Fuchsbau3520 Mar 2022 22:13Is the fireplace intended for heating purposes, or is it purely decorative and meant to enhance the ambiance?
Personally, the fireplace would be one of the first things I would leave out. I would not include one at all. But tastes certainly vary.
The question now is whether our comments are actually helpful to the OP.
Personally, the fireplace would be one of the first things I would leave out. I would not include one at all. But tastes certainly vary.
The question now is whether our comments are actually helpful to the OP.
motorradsilke schrieb:
Is it really like that for firewood where you are?
Here (Berlin area) you can buy it anytime in any amount and variety for different prices, whether through private classifieds or companies, or at the hardware store, freshly cut or already dry. Especially after the storms in winter, there is still so much lying around, so it shouldn’t be a problem for a long time.
For me, the fireplace would be the last thing I would give up. A fire bowl outside is no alternative, it doesn’t provide any warmth indoors. We are actually in need and haven’t received any deliveries for two years. It’s very important to me, I need the heat source… for two years it has been sold out in our area. And when available, the prices are outrageous. You can order online if necessary, but the prices are crazy (at the moment).
Yes, we could have collected storm-damaged wood. But when you come home in the early evening, and my husband isn’t feeling well, sometimes you just buy the hardware store wood.
I have always been in favor of fireplaces, but nowadays and looking into the future, a lot is changing. Climate, resources… our descendants will have to make sacrifices. And that also applies to today’s house construction. The time for many things is over. That’s my opinion.
Fuchsbau35 schrieb:
Is the chimney relevant for heating purposes, or is it purely decorative and meant for ambiance?It’s actually there mostly because it looks nice to have a fire burning in winter...
The side effect is that it produces some cozy warmth ^^
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motorradsilke21 Mar 2022 06:51ypg schrieb:
We have actually had an emergency and have not received any delivery for two years. It is very important to me; I need the heat source… for two years it has been sold out in our area. And if available, the price is exorbitant. You can, in an emergency, buy online, but the prices are insane (at the moment).
Yes, we could have collected storm-felled wood. But when you come home in the twilight and your partner is not feeling well, you settle for whatever is available at the hardware store.
I’ve always been pro-fireplace, but today’s times and looking ahead change a lot. Climate, resources… our descendants will have to make sacrifices. And that also applies to today’s house construction. The time for many things is over. Just my opinion. Then I can only suggest checking e..y classifieds. And don’t necessarily insist on the best quality. I just found slab boards here for 10 euros per cubic meter (10 EUR per m³).
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motorradsilke21 Mar 2022 06:52Seb_Opf schrieb:
It’s actually there more or less because it looks nice when there’s a fire burning in winter...
A side effect is that it creates cozy warmth ^^ And you get heat quickly in the evening, which is difficult with underfloor heating.
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