Hi everyone,
After a long search, I wanted to get your feedback one last time on my choice:
I found a fairly competent heating installer who recommends a Panasonic Aquarea LT KOMBI-HYDRO L-Gen (7kW) for just under €28,000 (before subsidies), with a small buffer tank (50L (13 gallons)) connected in series (which also matched your feedback from my last thread). The price includes everything except paving the path (6m (20 feet) distance from the installation site) and the electrician according to §14a. A split system would be fine for me, as I have enough space in the heating room. The refrigerant would also be R290, so I would qualify for the 55% subsidy.
The calculated annual performance factor was given as 4.79.
Key data about the house:
- Built in 2001
- 150m² (1,615 sq ft) of living space, of which 40m² (430 sq ft) in the basement have half-windows and do not need strong heating currently, might be heated more in the future
- 65m² (700 sq ft) of usable space
- Previous owner's consumption: 15,000 kWh/year
- Underfloor heating in the kitchen, living room, and bathrooms; thermostats in the basement and upper floor
Most other offers were all either above €35,000 (sometimes with a 600L (160 gallons) buffer tank and heat pump alone costing €18,000).
The only other offer still partly on my mind was a Vaillant Arotherm plus VWL 75/6 A S2 (monoblock). This came to around €32,000 all in, but I have to say some of his statements seemed odd. First, his suggested installation locations didn’t fit my heating room at all, and then he advised me against the Panasonic for two reasons (which I assume were scare tactics):
1. Spare parts might no longer be available after 3 years (which I find hard to believe)
2. He said the annual performance factor for Asian brands is often given at +2°C (36°F) instead of -7°C (19°F), so in comparison, it would probably be lower than his offer. However, I have only seen this temperature difference regarding SCOP values, not annual performance factors.
Do you see any other “red flags” I should keep in mind before I commit to Panasonic? 🙂
Good luck
After a long search, I wanted to get your feedback one last time on my choice:
I found a fairly competent heating installer who recommends a Panasonic Aquarea LT KOMBI-HYDRO L-Gen (7kW) for just under €28,000 (before subsidies), with a small buffer tank (50L (13 gallons)) connected in series (which also matched your feedback from my last thread). The price includes everything except paving the path (6m (20 feet) distance from the installation site) and the electrician according to §14a. A split system would be fine for me, as I have enough space in the heating room. The refrigerant would also be R290, so I would qualify for the 55% subsidy.
The calculated annual performance factor was given as 4.79.
Key data about the house:
- Built in 2001
- 150m² (1,615 sq ft) of living space, of which 40m² (430 sq ft) in the basement have half-windows and do not need strong heating currently, might be heated more in the future
- 65m² (700 sq ft) of usable space
- Previous owner's consumption: 15,000 kWh/year
- Underfloor heating in the kitchen, living room, and bathrooms; thermostats in the basement and upper floor
Most other offers were all either above €35,000 (sometimes with a 600L (160 gallons) buffer tank and heat pump alone costing €18,000).
The only other offer still partly on my mind was a Vaillant Arotherm plus VWL 75/6 A S2 (monoblock). This came to around €32,000 all in, but I have to say some of his statements seemed odd. First, his suggested installation locations didn’t fit my heating room at all, and then he advised me against the Panasonic for two reasons (which I assume were scare tactics):
1. Spare parts might no longer be available after 3 years (which I find hard to believe)
2. He said the annual performance factor for Asian brands is often given at +2°C (36°F) instead of -7°C (19°F), so in comparison, it would probably be lower than his offer. However, I have only seen this temperature difference regarding SCOP values, not annual performance factors.
Do you see any other “red flags” I should keep in mind before I commit to Panasonic? 🙂
Good luck
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nordanney14 Dec 2024 11:44I can share my own experience with Panasonic. I have been operating two monoblock units for almost three years.
- Spare parts? Running without any issues for three years.
- Operation? Much simpler than German brands. Here, simpler means easier to use.
- Efficiency? Seasonal performance factor well above 4 – closer to 5 (in a well-renovated older building).
- Price? Significantly cheaper than German models.
- Noise level? Relatively quiet.
I have no experience with customer service or similar.
- Spare parts? Running without any issues for three years.
- Operation? Much simpler than German brands. Here, simpler means easier to use.
- Efficiency? Seasonal performance factor well above 4 – closer to 5 (in a well-renovated older building).
- Price? Significantly cheaper than German models.
- Noise level? Relatively quiet.
I have no experience with customer service or similar.
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