ᐅ Elero TempoTel2 – Is it possible to change the channel DURING the programming process?

Hello Forum,

We will be replacing 11 windows/patio doors (existing house from 1980 / timber frame construction) with 11 triple-glazed units including electric roller shutters, plus the front door.

Our house has two floors.
One window has already been replaced; the bathroom was completely renovated last year.

THIS IS ABOUT THE CONTROL OF THE ROLLER SHUTTERS.

I have looked into three options.

1
Suggestion from the window company:
Radio-controlled tubular roller shutters with wall-mounted controls.
We already have a similar system in the bathroom / Elero.

2
Homematic system with LAN access point and actuators.

3
Classic wired setup with, for example, Jung push buttons and a standard tubular motor [4-core cable].

My wife insists it must be reliable and easy to use.
So do I.

That’s why I tend to go for the 4-core wired push button at the shutter [classic but simple].

Sorry, but if you don’t want to get up from the couch at age 60, that is a sure way to a worse health condition.

BUT:
FOR ME, it would make sense in the long run to be able to operate all roller shutters on the first floor from downstairs (ground floor) – in case of an “accident” like a hip problem or similar.

For this scenario, Homematic or TempoTel2 remote controls would be options.

When I asked the company if the push button could be operated IMMEDIATELY after wiring it to the Homematic actuator, the answer was:
Maybe yes, or about 80%.
So for 100%, all roller shutters must be added or learned first… via smartphone…

I always thought that the up/down cables, etc., would be connected through to the push button so that the roller shutter could be easily raised and lowered immediately and independently BEFORE the actuator has been programmed.
Apparently not…

SO THE QUESTION REGARDING THE TEMPOTEL2:

I have read the manual but found no information on whether it is possible to assign a channel to each roller shutter WHILE learning, e.g., 5 roller shutters that are connected to ONE circuit, or if this has to be sorted out later or how exactly?
So roller shutters 1–3 on channel 1, roller shutter 4 on channel 2, roller shutter 5 on channel 3, and so on.

I understand that multiple receivers can be taught on one channel.

But at which point does the channel assignment take place?

These are important decisions we have to make, and we want to do it only once...

The wall will be chased (wood!) or the cable laid inside the roller shutter to the outside, because we want to insulate the facade afterwards.
Of course, the electrician will handle this...

Maybe someone here has experience with the Elero TempoTel2 radio remote control?

Many thanks and have a nice May 1st,
Matthias

How good is the Wi-Fi coverage in your house, and how comfortable are you with "modern" Wi-Fi/smartphone technology? In that case, Shellys offer a good and affordable solution that works reliably. The wiring then follows the classic option 3, with push buttons instead of switches and the Shelly module connected in parallel behind the push button. Operation works as usual with the classic method or also with a smartphone, if desired. Deep mounting boxes should be installed at the push button locations.

Actually, it’s good—I’m running a Roon server on a Linux base and have high-end audio set up, etc.
The Wi-Fi coverage from the Fritzbox reaches the first floor (1st floor) without a repeater and even the basement, where the Viessmann condensing boiler is controlled via app.

I just plugged a repeater into the stairwell to improve the connection to the Viessmann system.

I could do the same on the first floor.

I have heard about Shelly modules here and elsewhere. They seem to be highly praised.

It sounds good that the control works “classically” via a physical switch, and smartphone control is optional but supposed to work well.

Is there a Shelly app, and would it be usable for my wife, who is not very familiar with smartphones or IT?

Or do you have to rely on a third-party app, like Bubble for music?

What has been your experience with electricians when you mention Shelly?

My first electrician offered me the new Bluetooth Mesh from Jung (first version (!)).

The second one at least knew Homematic.

Thanks for the Shelly tip so far 🙂
Which app do you recommend, and does it cover the essentials?

Does each Shelly device have its own IP address, so you see 11 devices on the Fritzbox all wanting to connect via Wi-Fi?
It’s usually just a few seconds per shutter per day anyway.

I’ll ask my second electrician if he could wire the modules behind the physical switches.

Can you recommend a link where the functionality of Shelly devices is clearly explained?

I haven’t found an app yet...

Thanks to you 🙂

Matthias1004 schrieb:

Is there a Shelly app, and would it be manageable for my wife, who isn’t very familiar with smartphones or IT?

Yes, there are Shelly Cloud and Shelly Smart something (the latter is brand new, I haven’t tried it yet) available in the app store of your choice. They should appear at the top if you search for "Shelly." Don’t be misled by the name—Shelly devices can also work completely without cloud services if you want. Without the cloud, you just lose control outside your Wi-Fi network, integration with Alexa and similar assistants, and a few automation features.

Matthias1004 schrieb:

What is your experience with electricians when you mention Shelly?

It depends. Some are interested in things they don’t directly earn from, others aren’t. Having deep electrical boxes behind the wall switches is important.

Matthias1004 schrieb:

My first electrician offered me the new Bluetooth mesh from Jung (first version (!))

Of course, because that’s all he knows besides Jung products.

Matthias1004 schrieb:

The second electrician at least knew about Homematic.

“At least knowing about it” isn’t enough if they’re supposed to set it up.

Matthias1004 schrieb:

Which app, and can it cover the essentials you need…

The Shelly app.

Matthias1004 schrieb:

Does each Shelly device have its own IP address, so do 11 devices appear on the router, all needing to be controlled via Wi-Fi? It’s usually just a few seconds per roller shutter per day.

Yes, but that’s not really an issue unless your network already has more than 200 devices.

Matthias1004 schrieb:

Can you recommend a link where the functionality of Shelly devices is clearly explained?

The Shelly website, it’s the first result on Google. Unfortunately, linking to anything here is strictly forbidden, or the forum might explode.