We are building a house where all the windows will have electric roller shutters.
Is it technically possible to control the shutters both individually and centrally?
My idea is to use a main switch to raise and lower all the shutters on the ground floor and a second main switch for all those on the upper floor at the same time. However, individual control should still be possible.
The house has about 19 windows, and I don’t want to have to operate 19 separate switches every evening.
Radio-controlled motors are not planned, although they would probably make this possible.
Is it technically possible to control the shutters both individually and centrally?
My idea is to use a main switch to raise and lower all the shutters on the ground floor and a second main switch for all those on the upper floor at the same time. However, individual control should still be possible.
The house has about 19 windows, and I don’t want to have to operate 19 separate switches every evening.
Radio-controlled motors are not planned, although they would probably make this possible.
I’m not sure if this counts as advertising, so I’ll leave out the link for now, but a friend of mine has apparently equipped his entire house with shutter control from "Homematic" (just a simple switch replacement plus a receiver unit?), and now he can control the rooms (some with multiple shutters) separately, all rooms together, or individual shutters directly at the switch via an iPhone/iPad app or the central control unit. I haven’t tried it myself yet (we’re still building) and need to see it in person first. However, if it can do what it promises, it would certainly be a viable option for me as well.
Has anyone here already used or tested something like this?
Regards,
Andi
Has anyone here already used or tested something like this?
Regards,
Andi
Homematic is generally a good solution if you want wireless control and are willing to invest some time in understanding it.
Regarding the original poster's question, the setup might look like this (there are several ways to implement such a circuit):
Distribution box ---3-core cable---> central switch ----5-core cable----> roller shutter switch No. 1-----> 5-core cable------> roller shutter switch No. 2 ......
It’s better to leave the installation to a certified electrician.
Regarding the original poster's question, the setup might look like this (there are several ways to implement such a circuit):
Distribution box ---3-core cable---> central switch ----5-core cable----> roller shutter switch No. 1-----> 5-core cable------> roller shutter switch No. 2 ......
It’s better to leave the installation to a certified electrician.
Since I just reread your post, this might still be important for you.
The individual switches for blinds 1, 2, 3, etc., require a SECONDARY INPUT for this type of setup.
The system is connected so that the central switch can control the motors via the secondary input on the individual switches.
In the 5-core cable, three wires—live (L), neutral (N), and protective earth (PE)—are passed through as usual, and the other two wires are connected from the central switch’s UP (raise) and DOWN (lower) outputs to the secondary input of the individual switch.
If you search with well-known manufacturers for “blind switch with secondary input,” you will find many pictures showing what this looks like.
The individual switches for blinds 1, 2, 3, etc., require a SECONDARY INPUT for this type of setup.
The system is connected so that the central switch can control the motors via the secondary input on the individual switches.
In the 5-core cable, three wires—live (L), neutral (N), and protective earth (PE)—are passed through as usual, and the other two wires are connected from the central switch’s UP (raise) and DOWN (lower) outputs to the secondary input of the individual switch.
If you search with well-known manufacturers for “blind switch with secondary input,” you will find many pictures showing what this looks like.
Pat83 schrieb:
I would leave the connection work to the electrician then. Yes, I will definitely have that done.
I prefer to do things I know how to do!
I just wanted to clarify in advance if it’s technically possible. After that, it should only be a matter of laying cables for the electrician, right?
However, I find the Homematic option quite interesting.
Hi,
I’m facing the exact same issue. The electrician wants to charge a significant extra fee for the switches/buttons with a secondary input and master switch compared to a standard switch per roller shutter.
I have now looked into radio motors and radio control (only for those who don’t mind using radio signals). The radio motor costs a bit more, but you only need a 3-core cable to the motor. The radio switches are battery-powered and can therefore be placed anywhere on the wall. Alternatively, there are remote controls or even control options via PC, tablet, or the internet.
In my quotes, the radio solutions are cheaper and offer more flexibility. With the wired solution, the switches of course match perfectly with the rest of the switch program (e.g., Gira, Busch-Jäger).
I’m facing the exact same issue. The electrician wants to charge a significant extra fee for the switches/buttons with a secondary input and master switch compared to a standard switch per roller shutter.
I have now looked into radio motors and radio control (only for those who don’t mind using radio signals). The radio motor costs a bit more, but you only need a 3-core cable to the motor. The radio switches are battery-powered and can therefore be placed anywhere on the wall. Alternatively, there are remote controls or even control options via PC, tablet, or the internet.
In my quotes, the radio solutions are cheaper and offer more flexibility. With the wired solution, the switches of course match perfectly with the rest of the switch program (e.g., Gira, Busch-Jäger).
For what you’re describing, you don’t necessarily need radio-controlled motors (if such a thing even exists). Usually, as you mentioned, a 3-core power cable is required that goes to a radio switch, and from there the roller shutter is controlled via a 4-core cable (up/down/neutral/protective earth) connected to a standard electric roller shutter motor.
The solution mentioned in this thread, "Homematic" (FS20, etc.), is just an example and works without a central unit if you don’t want to control it via a smartphone or similar, but simply want to use the switches as individual or central switches.
For most of these radio systems, the central plates:
a) have dimensions of 50x50mm (2x2 inches) and can be integrated using adapter frames for the respective switch programs
b) are available directly for the larger switch programs.
The solution mentioned in this thread, "Homematic" (FS20, etc.), is just an example and works without a central unit if you don’t want to control it via a smartphone or similar, but simply want to use the switches as individual or central switches.
For most of these radio systems, the central plates:
a) have dimensions of 50x50mm (2x2 inches) and can be integrated using adapter frames for the respective switch programs
b) are available directly for the larger switch programs.
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