Certainly, this discussion has probably come up once or twice before – but now, in 2015, how does the technology really stand?
I want to exclude soundproofing from this discussion, since we are building in a very quiet residential area, as are most such areas. The special case of building a house near a flight path, on a main road, or similar, I don’t want to discuss here, especially since a double or triple-layered wall also provides some sound insulation (actually quite good).
I have always had concerns about mold, but on the other hand, where would the moisture come from? In the case of a pipe leak and significant moisture damage, sources suggest that solid/concrete houses have worse problems than timber structures. The procedure here is to remove drywall, dispose of insulation in the affected area, allow it to dry for a week (using controlled mechanical ventilation with professional equipment), then install new insulation, close it up, and it’s done.
Normally, without a pipe break, moisture shouldn’t actually penetrate, right? Just like with solid construction, only the first few millimeters of the wall serve as a moisture buffer. It is well known that there is no “breathing wall.”
Regarding summer heat protection, I have experienced that even shaded solid model homes can become quite warm over the weekend. The two types of houses don’t differ much in this respect. I have even read that the heat cannot be released from the masonry at night, whereas in a timber house with low thermal mass, you can ventilate and thus lower the temperature, or use a brine-earth heat exchanger with the controlled mechanical ventilation system to achieve comfortable temperatures.
How does durability compare? Why is it said that timber houses don’t last as long, and what would be a realistic lifespan?
What are the real disadvantages of modern timber frame prefabricated houses from established manufacturers (Bien-Zenker, Weberhaus)? I am not referring to those from Poland or the Hunsrück region.
I want to exclude soundproofing from this discussion, since we are building in a very quiet residential area, as are most such areas. The special case of building a house near a flight path, on a main road, or similar, I don’t want to discuss here, especially since a double or triple-layered wall also provides some sound insulation (actually quite good).
I have always had concerns about mold, but on the other hand, where would the moisture come from? In the case of a pipe leak and significant moisture damage, sources suggest that solid/concrete houses have worse problems than timber structures. The procedure here is to remove drywall, dispose of insulation in the affected area, allow it to dry for a week (using controlled mechanical ventilation with professional equipment), then install new insulation, close it up, and it’s done.
Normally, without a pipe break, moisture shouldn’t actually penetrate, right? Just like with solid construction, only the first few millimeters of the wall serve as a moisture buffer. It is well known that there is no “breathing wall.”
Regarding summer heat protection, I have experienced that even shaded solid model homes can become quite warm over the weekend. The two types of houses don’t differ much in this respect. I have even read that the heat cannot be released from the masonry at night, whereas in a timber house with low thermal mass, you can ventilate and thus lower the temperature, or use a brine-earth heat exchanger with the controlled mechanical ventilation system to achieve comfortable temperatures.
How does durability compare? Why is it said that timber houses don’t last as long, and what would be a realistic lifespan?
What are the real disadvantages of modern timber frame prefabricated houses from established manufacturers (Bien-Zenker, Weberhaus)? I am not referring to those from Poland or the Hunsrück region.
Grym schrieb:
Are you deliberately making a fuss now? The question, of course, is where the moisture is supposed to come from, specifically in the wooden studs?PS. I actually think you’re the one making a fuss...
You really believe the moisture in the wooden studs appears by itself? Oh, right...
And cooking, washing, sweating are just minor issues? Very interesting....
muf23 schrieb:
Do you think the moisture comes from the wooden studs by itself? No.
My parents have an hsb house. So far, I haven’t noticed any major defects. There was even a pipe burst in the upper floor once, but it wasn’t a problem. What stands out is the heat in one of the upper floor rooms with full western sun exposure. Another issue might be that it’s a bit sound-transmitting, but there are solutions for that, and it’s not much different in a solid construction house either. After all, you live with your family in a limited space. The advantages are, of course, shorter construction time and greater design flexibility. Walls are easier to remove and modify. If desired, you have better access to installations inside partition walls. Even shortly before construction starts, walls can still be changed without any issues—except for load-bearing ones. Another advantage is the wall thickness itself: only 25 cm (10 inches) for an exterior wall with high-quality insulation! I think that’s great. I also believe that with good workmanship, there are hardly any real disadvantages compared to a solid construction house. And in a hurricane, no solid construction house stands a chance either.
Bautraum201521 Jul 2015 09:57No construction is as flexible for potential redesign as a solid shell structure. The prefab home providers we visited manufacture the walls in their factories. With a 25cm (10 inch) wall thickness, whether solid or timber and regardless of the insulation used, I personally find there is too little "mass"—which especially matters right now for buffering heat at these temperatures.
However, I also believe there are no major disadvantages in that sense... it’s mainly a matter of personal comfort and preference. I do not want a timber frame house.
However, I also believe there are no major disadvantages in that sense... it’s mainly a matter of personal comfort and preference. I do not want a timber frame house.
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