ᐅ Comparison of Quotes for Painting Work Including Filling, Smoothing Fleece, etc.
Created on: 4 Feb 2021 17:05
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micric3Hello,
we have requested two quotes regarding the finishing work, including filling, sanding, and painting. Both companies visited the site and were able to inspect the plaster.
Quote 1:
- more detailed breakdown of all items and materials used
- calculated area is 500m² (5400 ft²) (50m² (540 ft²) more than Quote 2), which is important for the "wall filling area" item
- cheaper offer because the wall surface is not fully filled
Quote 2:
- painter said the walls will generally be fully filled
- therefore, the offer is also more expensive
- not all agreed items are listed in the quote (priming, etc.)
Questions:
- Should the walls generally be fully filled?
- Is there a significant difference between Profiline Glattvlies Plus 150g/m² and Palmtex 708 renovation fleece?
- Is Glattvlies enough to cover/level out unevenness from Q2 plaster?
Please share your experiences and opinions with me.
Good luck
M
we have requested two quotes regarding the finishing work, including filling, sanding, and painting. Both companies visited the site and were able to inspect the plaster.
Quote 1:
- more detailed breakdown of all items and materials used
- calculated area is 500m² (5400 ft²) (50m² (540 ft²) more than Quote 2), which is important for the "wall filling area" item
- cheaper offer because the wall surface is not fully filled
Quote 2:
- painter said the walls will generally be fully filled
- therefore, the offer is also more expensive
- not all agreed items are listed in the quote (priming, etc.)
Questions:
- Should the walls generally be fully filled?
- Is there a significant difference between Profiline Glattvlies Plus 150g/m² and Palmtex 708 renovation fleece?
- Is Glattvlies enough to cover/level out unevenness from Q2 plaster?
Please share your experiences and opinions with me.
Good luck
M
Hello,
The question of whether to apply a full-surface skim coat or not is, of course, a matter of aesthetics. Painter’s fleece cannot compensate for irregularities in Q2 plaster, and Q2 plaster is basically intended to be "ready for wallpaper" rather than a base for fleece. Personally, I think that if you go with Q2, you might as well skip the fleece, but you shouldn’t be upset if the finish only looks so-so. A full-surface skim coat definitely provides a better overall appearance.
The issue with partial skimming usually becomes a billing problem in the end. What must be skimmed as an additional service, what is charged according to the unit price, how is the quantity determined, did you want those spots skimmed? Why would someone spot-skim to Q3 if the rest is at Q3? Well, it’s always tricky.
What bothers me about the second quote is that there’s no mention of the paint color. A "high-quality" dispersion paint according to DIN standards is just nonsense. "High-quality" isn’t even a defined term, and "according to DIN" only means it meets the DIN standard for dispersion paints, which applies to every cheap product from hardware stores. What really matters here are the wet abrasion classes.
Regarding the bill of quantities, I prefer company 1, and their offer leaves less room for later discussions.
Maybe you could ask them what the cost for full-surface skimming would be, and consider skipping the fleece on the walls. You will see hairline cracks earlier, but these will also show through the fleece—they’re just harder to repair there.
On the subject of surface area: it might be worth checking again why the measurements differ. There’s about a 9% difference after all.
Best regards,
Jann
The question of whether to apply a full-surface skim coat or not is, of course, a matter of aesthetics. Painter’s fleece cannot compensate for irregularities in Q2 plaster, and Q2 plaster is basically intended to be "ready for wallpaper" rather than a base for fleece. Personally, I think that if you go with Q2, you might as well skip the fleece, but you shouldn’t be upset if the finish only looks so-so. A full-surface skim coat definitely provides a better overall appearance.
The issue with partial skimming usually becomes a billing problem in the end. What must be skimmed as an additional service, what is charged according to the unit price, how is the quantity determined, did you want those spots skimmed? Why would someone spot-skim to Q3 if the rest is at Q3? Well, it’s always tricky.
What bothers me about the second quote is that there’s no mention of the paint color. A "high-quality" dispersion paint according to DIN standards is just nonsense. "High-quality" isn’t even a defined term, and "according to DIN" only means it meets the DIN standard for dispersion paints, which applies to every cheap product from hardware stores. What really matters here are the wet abrasion classes.
Regarding the bill of quantities, I prefer company 1, and their offer leaves less room for later discussions.
Maybe you could ask them what the cost for full-surface skimming would be, and consider skipping the fleece on the walls. You will see hairline cracks earlier, but these will also show through the fleece—they’re just harder to repair there.
On the subject of surface area: it might be worth checking again why the measurements differ. There’s about a 9% difference after all.
Best regards,
Jann
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