The electrician offered the following wallbox for the new build. It will only be installed after registration due to the subsidy.
What do you think? Is it a good option? The net price is €1,590. Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with this area. However, I definitely wanted to have it since we are also installing a 13 kWp (kilowatt-peak) photovoltaic system and plan to get an electric car.
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MENNEKES AMTRON Basic 11 C2 | 1343201 | Wallbox / Electric Vehicle Charging Station | with Type 2 charging cable
EXPERIENCE PUT INTO FORM.
AMTRON® wallboxes represent a new level of development, both in terms of technology and functionality, as well as design. Ease of use, comfort, and safety were priorities during development. The result offers outstanding and pioneering features.
AMTRON® wallboxes come with a permanently attached charging cable and Type 2 charging connector.
MENNEKES AMTRON® Basic 11 C2 Wallbox
Designed for use in private garages, parking spaces at multi-family homes, company, and hotel parking areas.
High-quality and functional design with integrated cable holder.
Display:
Indicates operating status through four color-backlit symbols: readiness, charging, waiting, and fault.
Charging port:
Permanently attached 7.5 m (25 feet) charging cable with Type 2 connector for Mode 3 charging up to 11 kW charging power.
User interface:
Multifunction button with trip function for residual current circuit breaker (RCCB) and reset function for line and residual current circuit breakers. Energy meter readable from outside.
Authorization:
Authorization via key switch for single or continuous authorization.
Safety features:
Personal protection
Residual current circuit breaker
Type B RCCB, 4-pole, 40 A, 0.03 A residual current sensitivity
Cable protection via 16 A C-type circuit breaker, 3-pole
Type: Basic 11 C2
Housing made of AMELAN®, protection rating IP44
Top housing silver RAL 9006, design panel and lower housing black RAL 9005
Charging port with Type 2 connector, 7.5 m (25 feet) cable length
Personal protection: RCCB 40 A, 4-pole, Type B (all-current sensitive)
Protection: Circuit breaker 16 A, C-type, 3-pole and contactor 16 A, 4-pole
User interface: Multifunction button, LED status display
Energy meter: calibrated digital energy meter, system monitoring for RCCB, circuit breaker, contactor, and phase failure
Authorization: key switch
Communication with vehicle: CPX communication box
Power supply connection: 5 x 6 mm² cable, input connections at top, bottom, and rear
Also available:
3.7 kW (single-phase), order number: 1343200
22 kW (three-phase), order number: 1343202
Suitable for all Type 2 vehicles:
BMW i3 (from 2016), Mercedes Benz (all electric models), Renault ZOE Z.E., Smart fortwo electric drive, Tesla Model S, Audi A3 e-tron, BMW i3 (up to 2015), i8, X5, Porsche (all electric models), Renault Kangoo Z.E. (2016) / Fluence Z.E. (2016), VW e-up! / e-Golf / Golf-Passat GTE / Touareg Hybrid, Volvo V60 / XC90
What do you think? Is it a good option? The net price is €1,590. Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with this area. However, I definitely wanted to have it since we are also installing a 13 kWp (kilowatt-peak) photovoltaic system and plan to get an electric car.
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MENNEKES AMTRON Basic 11 C2 | 1343201 | Wallbox / Electric Vehicle Charging Station | with Type 2 charging cable
EXPERIENCE PUT INTO FORM.
AMTRON® wallboxes represent a new level of development, both in terms of technology and functionality, as well as design. Ease of use, comfort, and safety were priorities during development. The result offers outstanding and pioneering features.
AMTRON® wallboxes come with a permanently attached charging cable and Type 2 charging connector.
MENNEKES AMTRON® Basic 11 C2 Wallbox
Designed for use in private garages, parking spaces at multi-family homes, company, and hotel parking areas.
High-quality and functional design with integrated cable holder.
Display:
Indicates operating status through four color-backlit symbols: readiness, charging, waiting, and fault.
Charging port:
Permanently attached 7.5 m (25 feet) charging cable with Type 2 connector for Mode 3 charging up to 11 kW charging power.
User interface:
Multifunction button with trip function for residual current circuit breaker (RCCB) and reset function for line and residual current circuit breakers. Energy meter readable from outside.
Authorization:
Authorization via key switch for single or continuous authorization.
Safety features:
Personal protection
Residual current circuit breaker
Type B RCCB, 4-pole, 40 A, 0.03 A residual current sensitivity
Cable protection via 16 A C-type circuit breaker, 3-pole
Type: Basic 11 C2
Housing made of AMELAN®, protection rating IP44
Top housing silver RAL 9006, design panel and lower housing black RAL 9005
Charging port with Type 2 connector, 7.5 m (25 feet) cable length
Personal protection: RCCB 40 A, 4-pole, Type B (all-current sensitive)
Protection: Circuit breaker 16 A, C-type, 3-pole and contactor 16 A, 4-pole
User interface: Multifunction button, LED status display
Energy meter: calibrated digital energy meter, system monitoring for RCCB, circuit breaker, contactor, and phase failure
Authorization: key switch
Communication with vehicle: CPX communication box
Power supply connection: 5 x 6 mm² cable, input connections at top, bottom, and rear
Also available:
3.7 kW (single-phase), order number: 1343200
22 kW (three-phase), order number: 1343202
Suitable for all Type 2 vehicles:
BMW i3 (from 2016), Mercedes Benz (all electric models), Renault ZOE Z.E., Smart fortwo electric drive, Tesla Model S, Audi A3 e-tron, BMW i3 (up to 2015), i8, X5, Porsche (all electric models), Renault Kangoo Z.E. (2016) / Fluence Z.E. (2016), VW e-up! / e-Golf / Golf-Passat GTE / Touareg Hybrid, Volvo V60 / XC90
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Daniel-Sp23 Aug 2021 16:34Nevertheless, submit the funding application only after moving in and hire the electrician only after approval is granted; then the government will provide an additional €900. If you do it now, there will be no funding because it is a new construction project.
untergasse4323 Aug 2021 20:10It depends on what you want to use it for. Simply charging the car with electricity from the grid, or more advanced functions like detailed monitoring, smart charging with photovoltaics and battery storage, or other sophisticated features.
My parents-in-law installed two Heidelberg Energy Control units. Since there was a free 32 A CEE outlet in the garage, the whole setup was almost cost-neutral thanks to subsidies and works perfectly. It charges green electricity from the grid and looks good.
Personally, I find the Easee and OpenWB solutions quite interesting for our little project.
My parents-in-law installed two Heidelberg Energy Control units. Since there was a free 32 A CEE outlet in the garage, the whole setup was almost cost-neutral thanks to subsidies and works perfectly. It charges green electricity from the grid and looks good.
Personally, I find the Easee and OpenWB solutions quite interesting for our little project.
To my knowledge, the Zappi can automatically regulate based on the surplus fed into the grid. However, I’m not sure how this works with two units.
Alternatively, a wall box with direct communication to the inverter of your photovoltaic system could be an option. If you already have a 70% soft regulation there, you don’t need the Zappi’s measurement points and can use the data from the inverter instead. Ultimately, it’s also a matter of availability. But you do have time.
Alternatively, a wall box with direct communication to the inverter of your photovoltaic system could be an option. If you already have a 70% soft regulation there, you don’t need the Zappi’s measurement points and can use the data from the inverter instead. Ultimately, it’s also a matter of availability. But you do have time.
I’ve made some progress:
V2H (Vehicle-to-Home, meaning bidirectional charging) is obviously very interesting to me as a photovoltaic system owner without a battery storage system. Unfortunately, this technology is still in its infancy, and the few charging stations that support it are quite expensive (from around 5,000€ according to what I’ve read).
Since we won’t be using the charging stations for at least another 2 to 3 years, I’ve decided to forego additional features for now and install the most affordable eligible charging stations to secure the available subsidies.
Once the technology becomes more market-ready in a few years, it should be relatively easy to upgrade.
I believe this approach makes more sense for our situation than paying several hundred euros extra now for features I won’t use yet and that will probably become outdated eventually.
V2H (Vehicle-to-Home, meaning bidirectional charging) is obviously very interesting to me as a photovoltaic system owner without a battery storage system. Unfortunately, this technology is still in its infancy, and the few charging stations that support it are quite expensive (from around 5,000€ according to what I’ve read).
Since we won’t be using the charging stations for at least another 2 to 3 years, I’ve decided to forego additional features for now and install the most affordable eligible charging stations to secure the available subsidies.
Once the technology becomes more market-ready in a few years, it should be relatively easy to upgrade.
I believe this approach makes more sense for our situation than paying several hundred euros extra now for features I won’t use yet and that will probably become outdated eventually.
untergasse4325 Aug 2021 10:52matte1987 schrieb:
I think this makes more sense for our scenario than paying several hundred euros extra for features I don’t use yet and that will eventually become outdated anyway. I agree. At the moment, I would choose the most affordable option that meets the minimum requirements. Vehicle-to-Home (V2H) technology also needs to be supported by cars first, and as far as I know, that is still a long way off.
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