ᐅ Experiences with air conditioning in new builds?

Created on: 11 Jun 2022 11:07
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Mr.Vain
Hello everyone,

I built a new house 4 years ago and have the problem that the bedroom on the upper floor gets very warm in summer (when there are several warm/hot days in a row).

Therefore, I am looking for a suitable split air conditioning system.

The bedroom is about 18m² (195 sq ft) in size, which corresponds to roughly 50 m³ (1,765 cu ft) of room volume.

It would be desirable to control the system with my smartphone (plus scheduling). Ideally, there would also be an option to connect it to ioBroker. I have an HVAC technician available who can install the system.

I have the following questions:

- I have a mechanical ventilation system installed. How does this work in combination with a split air conditioner? Is there anything I should consider regarding this? The bedroom has two vents (1 supply air and 1 exhaust air).

- Next door is a child’s room (about 20m² (215 sq ft) -> about 55 m³ (1,940 cu ft) of room volume). Does it make sense to switch to a multi-split system so that I can possibly cool both rooms with one outdoor unit? I do not currently need cooling in that room, but we might decide to add it in 1-2 years. Or would it be just as good to buy a separate single split unit for that later?

- Should the distance between indoor and outdoor units be kept as short as possible? For example, I wonder if the outdoor unit should be mounted directly at the gable at the top, or if I can also mount it down near the ground (there is a garden there, so the unit would be somewhat hidden [IMG alt=" 🙂"]https://www.kaelte-treffpunkt.de/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/IMG]

- Main question: Which air conditioner would you recommend for my needs/requirements? I am mostly looking for the best price/performance options.

- I’m happy to buy online — I read that air conditioners are significantly cheaper in Italy. Has anyone had experience with this? What about warranty, guarantee, and customs fees?

I hope to clarify some of these questions here [IMG alt=" 🙂"]https://www.kaelte-treffpunkt.de/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/IMG]

Best regards,
Markus
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paulch7
31 May 2023 20:43
Thank you very much for the feedback. So far, Daikin is leading. Question regarding the positioning of the outdoor fan unit: the house is on a slope, will a lot of noise reach the neighbors above (red lines)? Is it possible to install with an extremely short refrigerant line—2 meters (6.5 feet)? The study is located directly behind the wall in front of the fan unit.
Unkempt garden area next to the house; dense vegetation, fence, yellow boards, hose in the foreground
Mycraft1 Jun 2023 09:40
paulch7 schrieb:

Thanks Mycraft. What do you think about Sarara Ururu? It’s really expensive and large, and the local distributor said they discontinued it because the cost-performance ratio wasn’t right.

Daikin is expensive, there’s no denying that. You just have to weigh the options. There’s basically nothing wrong with TCL either.
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paulch7
1 Jun 2023 10:20
I’m gathering some quotes first... My local city (or rather village) administration here in Switzerland requires a permit process, including signatures from all neighbors... Well, that’s something. Maybe I’ll also go ahead and plan the air-source heat pump at the same time.
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paulch7
1 Jun 2023 17:31
First quote for 1 Mitsubishi M-Series R32 MSZ-AP25VGK single-split, including installation, over 4000, which I would have expected more from Daikin than Mitsubishi.
Araknis3 Jun 2023 08:18
Mitsubishi Heavy is at least as good as Daikin. They are hardly different in quality.
kati13373 Jun 2023 18:23
paulch7 schrieb:

First quote for 1 Mitsubishi M-Series R32 MSZ- AP25VGK monosplit, including installation, over 4000, which I would have expected more from Daikin rather than Mitsubishi.
For how many split units?

That sounds rather reasonable given current conditions. Our first (Mitsubishi) quote for 3 split units was just over €5000 in 2020. For the current one from Remko (5 split units, of which 1 unit is being covered by the contractor), it’s just under €14,000.
We really waited for months here for an alternative offer (including Daikin, but also Mitsubishi), and our plumber couldn’t even source the units.