I don’t know if anyone else besides me enjoys analyzing consumption and numbers related to the electricity and gas price caps and their forecasts, so here is just an attempt:
Forecast: Electricity 2,400 kWh per year, consumption since 06/04/22 at 2,917 kWh
Forecast: Gas 20,000 kWh per year, consumption since 06/04/22 at 52.81 m3 (cubic meters) → converted with factor 10 results in 528.1 kWh
The following is for those who want more detailed information:
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Single-family house (Leipzig district) with underfloor heating / tiles throughout
Built according to energy saving regulations (gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal system)
Approx. 139 sq m (1,495 sq ft) of living area
Residents are two adults, no children, home all day
Moved in early August 2022
Electricity and gas meters have been running since about mid-June 2022
Until September 2022, supply was via temporary contract; since October 2022, basic supply
Special features: sauna (operated once a week using high-voltage power) and home brewing beer (about once a month)
Thermal final energy per sq m: 37.57 kWh/m2a – auxiliary final energy per sq m: 2.87 kWh/m2a – primary energy per sq m: 46.5 kWh/m2a
Edit: Unfortunately, I was no longer able to change the title to "...-price cap," which would be more accurate.
Forecast: Electricity 2,400 kWh per year, consumption since 06/04/22 at 2,917 kWh
Forecast: Gas 20,000 kWh per year, consumption since 06/04/22 at 52.81 m3 (cubic meters) → converted with factor 10 results in 528.1 kWh
The following is for those who want more detailed information:
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Single-family house (Leipzig district) with underfloor heating / tiles throughout
Built according to energy saving regulations (gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal system)
Approx. 139 sq m (1,495 sq ft) of living area
Residents are two adults, no children, home all day
Moved in early August 2022
Electricity and gas meters have been running since about mid-June 2022
Until September 2022, supply was via temporary contract; since October 2022, basic supply
Special features: sauna (operated once a week using high-voltage power) and home brewing beer (about once a month)
Thermal final energy per sq m: 37.57 kWh/m2a – auxiliary final energy per sq m: 2.87 kWh/m2a – primary energy per sq m: 46.5 kWh/m2a
Edit: Unfortunately, I was no longer able to change the title to "...-price cap," which would be more accurate.
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hanghaus20231 Apr 2023 15:11My gas supplier has announced new surcharges on their website. The surcharge mandated by the government is 2.4 cents and is intended to ease the impact on the companies supplying the gas. So my already increased price will go up again by 31,772 kWh * 2.4 cents = 762 euros per year. Thanks to the coalition government.
Converting to a heat pump is not financially feasible.
The heat pump is supposed to cost around 40,000 euros plus approximately 10,000 euros for modifying the radiators and domestic hot water system.
Heat pump efficiency 400%: 31,700 kWh / 4 = 7,925 kWh * 30 cents = 2,377 euros per year.
Gas forecast max 12 cents * gas saving 20%: 31,700 kWh * 0.8 * 0.12 = 3,043 euros per year.
Heat pump savings 666 euros per year.
50,000 / 666 = 75 years until the initial investment pays off. The heat pump won’t last that long, and neither will I.
Converting to a heat pump is not financially feasible.
The heat pump is supposed to cost around 40,000 euros plus approximately 10,000 euros for modifying the radiators and domestic hot water system.
Heat pump efficiency 400%: 31,700 kWh / 4 = 7,925 kWh * 30 cents = 2,377 euros per year.
Gas forecast max 12 cents * gas saving 20%: 31,700 kWh * 0.8 * 0.12 = 3,043 euros per year.
Heat pump savings 666 euros per year.
50,000 / 666 = 75 years until the initial investment pays off. The heat pump won’t last that long, and neither will I.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
My gas supplier recently announced new surcharges on their website. The surcharge mandated by the government is 2.4 cents, intended to reduce the impact on the companies supplying the gas. So, my already increased price will rise again by 31,772 kWh * 2.4 cents = 762 Euros per year. Thanks to the current government coalition.
Switching to a heat pump is financially not an option.
The heat pump costs around 40,000 Euros plus about 10,000 Euros more for modifying the radiators and hot water system.
Heat pump efficiency 400%: 31,700 / 4 = 7,925 kWh * 30 cents = 2,377 Euros per year.
Gas forecast max 12 cents * gas savings 20%: 31,700 * 0.8 * 0.012 = 3,043 Euros per year.
Savings with heat pump: 666 Euros per year.
50,000 / 666 = 75 years until the initial investment would pay off. The heat pump won’t last that long, and neither will I.
Since when have the regulations being passed actually made sense?!
My father-in-law is stuck with an old oil heating system in a five-unit building and already feels financially ruined...
I told him he should be grateful to share the costs among five.
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hanghaus20231 Apr 2023 16:02Snowy36 schrieb:
Since when have the regulations passed there been sensible?! WHERE did I write anything about it being sensible?M
motorradsilke1 Apr 2023 19:42SumsumBiene schrieb:
That’s true, but for the special cost-saving measure (which was already mandatory at 17 cents), I think it would be fair to at least have 12 cents per kWh on the meter in the normal range. Especially since the wood doesn’t just fall from the sky (this winter we still used old wood from the takeover, but for next winter we will have to buy it).But you can currently get gas contracts again for under 12 cents. So the limit shouldn't matter to you.
SumsumBiene1 Apr 2023 20:49motorradsilke schrieb:
But gas contracts are currently available again for under 12 cents. So the surcharge shouldn't matter to you. Unfortunately, I have a two-year contract because I needed planning security and was inexperienced (regarding basic supply, for example). Apart from that, according to the portal, the cheapest rate is still 11.5 cents.
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motorradsilke1 Apr 2023 21:05SumsumBiene schrieb:
Unfortunately, I have a two-year contract because I needed planning security and was inexperienced (for example, regarding basic utilities). Besides that, according to the portal, the cheapest rate is still 11.5 cents per kWh.Yes, but that is still under 12 cents per kWh, and you would get the entire consumption at that rate. The rest you have to consider as a learning expense; it’s not a huge amount.Similar topics