ᐅ Land Plot Lottery – How to Make the Ideal Preliminary Selection
Created on: 21 Feb 2022 14:01
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familie_s
Hello everyone,
In our municipality (Bavaria), plots of land will soon be allocated again based on social criteria. We already participated in a lottery process once, where we ranked 7th out of 6 available plots, so we expect better chances this time.
The allocation procedure was originally planned for the turn of the year 2021/2022 and is supposed to start "as soon as possible."
The development plan is not yet legally binding, so I am providing some data from a comparable residential area in the same municipality from this year.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: see our estimate in the photo
Slope: yes, contour lines are marked
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces per residential unit
Number of stories: Basement + Ground floor + Attic or 1/2 stories + Attic
Roof type: symmetrical gable and hipped roofs with a central ridge as well as shed roofs with slopes between 20° and 35°
Maximum heights/limits: Wall height max. 6.5 m (eaves side, from top edge of ground floor ceiling)
Additional information:
To the east is the local primary school right next to the site; about 350 m (380 yards) away is a biogas plant (without district heating connection); the main village road is to the south. About 800 m (875 yards) further south is the next state road.
Since the application windows are always relatively short, we want to be well prepared for the application phase and select the best three plots. I am especially interested in your opinions. We already received great feedback on a similar topic from @Melinaaa.
Initially, we favored plot number 4 because it is the highest, largest, and has little frontage on the public road. Unfortunately, we have not yet found a creative way to place a house here in a practical manner. On our site visits, we haven’t come across any houses that are nicely and logically accessed from the south. The only option we can currently imagine is to place the parking spaces behind the house—in the north.
Plot number 1 is also nicely elevated and, due to the adjoining public green space, could visually give the impression of having more land than you actually own (and pay for). Again, the disadvantage is that the driveway is from below.
Plot number 8 also benefits from the adjacent green space, but it has a large street frontage and is situated lower.
We had not considered plot number 9 before, fearing it might be shaded by the fire station, but the current plans show the fire station building integrates quite low into the slope.
Plots number 5 and 6 receive significant shade from the existing buildings to the south.
Which plots would you choose?
What haven’t we thought about? Retaining walls, drainage?
In our municipality (Bavaria), plots of land will soon be allocated again based on social criteria. We already participated in a lottery process once, where we ranked 7th out of 6 available plots, so we expect better chances this time.
The allocation procedure was originally planned for the turn of the year 2021/2022 and is supposed to start "as soon as possible."
The development plan is not yet legally binding, so I am providing some data from a comparable residential area in the same municipality from this year.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: see our estimate in the photo
Slope: yes, contour lines are marked
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces per residential unit
Number of stories: Basement + Ground floor + Attic or 1/2 stories + Attic
Roof type: symmetrical gable and hipped roofs with a central ridge as well as shed roofs with slopes between 20° and 35°
Maximum heights/limits: Wall height max. 6.5 m (eaves side, from top edge of ground floor ceiling)
Additional information:
To the east is the local primary school right next to the site; about 350 m (380 yards) away is a biogas plant (without district heating connection); the main village road is to the south. About 800 m (875 yards) further south is the next state road.
Since the application windows are always relatively short, we want to be well prepared for the application phase and select the best three plots. I am especially interested in your opinions. We already received great feedback on a similar topic from @Melinaaa.
Initially, we favored plot number 4 because it is the highest, largest, and has little frontage on the public road. Unfortunately, we have not yet found a creative way to place a house here in a practical manner. On our site visits, we haven’t come across any houses that are nicely and logically accessed from the south. The only option we can currently imagine is to place the parking spaces behind the house—in the north.
Plot number 1 is also nicely elevated and, due to the adjoining public green space, could visually give the impression of having more land than you actually own (and pay for). Again, the disadvantage is that the driveway is from below.
Plot number 8 also benefits from the adjacent green space, but it has a large street frontage and is situated lower.
We had not considered plot number 9 before, fearing it might be shaded by the fire station, but the current plans show the fire station building integrates quite low into the slope.
Plots number 5 and 6 receive significant shade from the existing buildings to the south.
Which plots would you choose?
What haven’t we thought about? Retaining walls, drainage?
familie_s schrieb:
In our municipality (Bavaria), plots of land will soon be allocated again based on social criteria. We have already taken part in a lottery procedure before; there were 6 available plots, and we were ranked 7th, so this time we expect to have better chances. I see the question as having primarily two aspects:
First, clarify for yourselves whether you would consider even the "worst" plot a "win" or an improvement of your current situation (being owners instead of waiting or wishing).
Second, clarify how the "rules" of the lottery work, for example: do the highest-scoring or first-drawn participants choose their preferred plot first and then the next ones pick from the remaining plots; or can each participant, for example, name three preferred plots, with the first plot going to the highest scorer for that plot, and so on?
From there, it becomes clear whether it might be strategically wise, for example, to place one of three lottery entries on a plot expected to be less competitive. The possible rules are so varied that they cannot be guessed but must be asked about. In any case, the rule applies: if you don’t know the rules, you cannot act strategically and must rely solely on luck. Betting on the top favorite to finish first always gives the worst odds. That is why my initial question is: would you also be happy with the "consolation prize"?
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familie_s schrieb:
We want to build about 170 sqm (1,830 sq ft).Plus a basement on a slope? That’s quite a project. Then the second one 🙂
11ant schrieb:
I see the question as having two main aspects:
First, for you, does the "worst" plot still count as a "win" or an improvement of your current situation (already owning instead of waiting or wishing)? Oh yes, definitely. We have been searching for so long and would probably be happy with any plot here. In another area where we are also applying, there are certainly some "duds."
11ant schrieb:
Or is each participant allowed to name, for example, three plots, and the first plot goes to the highest scorer for that plot, and so on? That’s exactly how it works. Our mayor is very eager to please everyone. In the last allocation process, he was already at our home the day after the application deadline to discuss it with us.
K a t j a schrieb:
Plus a basement on a slope? That’s quite a challenge. Then the second one. 🙂The ground floor, upper floor, and the habitable part of the basement are supposed to total around 170m² (1,830 sq ft).
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motorradsilke22 Feb 2022 00:50My favorite would be option 1. It faces north and west, with open space from the fields, which likely means it won’t be developed quickly. The driveway is from the south, but there should be some space left on the south and west sides. I would plan a terrace and/or seating area on the south and west sides.
For option 4, I would consider the primary school. If it has an attached after-school care facility, you can expect noise every day until 6 p.m.
For option 4, I would consider the primary school. If it has an attached after-school care facility, you can expect noise every day until 6 p.m.
motorradsilke schrieb:
My favorite would be option 1. There is open space to the north and west because of the fields, which probably won’t be developed anytime soon. Access is from the south, but there should be some space left on the south and west sides, so I would plan the terrace and/or seating area there.
For option 4, I would think about the primary school. If they have an attached after-school care program, you could have noise until 6 p.m. every day. We need to name three preferences, and option 1 would definitely be one of them. However, development to the west is quite possible. The western plot, which lies above the existing buildings, will be connected to the infrastructure at the same time during development. I consider development to the north unlikely in the near future.
The school is a village primary school with 80 children and offers lunchtime supervision until 2 p.m. (14:00). However, this may of course change in the long term. The playground is located on the east side. The agricultural property to the south is actually noisier.
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