On the mentioned day, there is a German feature film starring Moretti: the house. The film is set in a beautiful, modern, and minimalist house and revolves around the surprises of smart home technology. For some, the house will probably be more interesting than the content of the film 😉
Hehe, no, at the workplace. Saturdays are usually pretty quiet.
In our home, no voice assistant has ever really gained popularity. Well, maybe in the mornings for checking the weather forecast and switching between music streams, or quite regularly for reading or showing the news as a video. Otherwise, not really.
Because, to use your words, I just find it annoying to have to tell the house what to do. How is that supposed to be smart? The house should just take care of all these tasks on its own without me having to step in with commands.
That gets tiring and unsatisfying in the long run, after the initial hype wears off.
It’s also interesting to see in smart home presentations that as soon as someone has a voice assistant and can control a few light bulbs and the TV, it’s suddenly considered a smart home.
ypg schrieb:Right? I also always find it ridiculous. And manufacturers are pushing it more and more, with more assistants coming onto the market under the pretense that this is the future and that it’s great! At least that’s my impression based on the usual advertising campaigns.
but I just found it annoying to have to keep talking all the time.
In our home, no voice assistant has ever really gained popularity. Well, maybe in the mornings for checking the weather forecast and switching between music streams, or quite regularly for reading or showing the news as a video. Otherwise, not really.
Because, to use your words, I just find it annoying to have to tell the house what to do. How is that supposed to be smart? The house should just take care of all these tasks on its own without me having to step in with commands.
That gets tiring and unsatisfying in the long run, after the initial hype wears off.
It’s also interesting to see in smart home presentations that as soon as someone has a voice assistant and can control a few light bulbs and the TV, it’s suddenly considered a smart home.
ypg schrieb:That just isn’t well thought out and it’s a movie that also plays on our fears.
But constantly being heard in the house or finding out what others are doing…
ypg schrieb:It’s good that the film shows the weaknesses, and maybe some will realize that the big companies are selling us an idealized world and a “future” with their voice assistants, but in reality, it’s a listening device with all the consequences.
But it’s pretty spooky to me. I think the film shows some people the downside of the technology.
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Stefan00113 Dec 2021 12:24This is simply due to the average consumer. A true smart home requires an effort that is not practical for the mass market.
The problem with smart homes is still not feasibility, but convenience.
Yes, I could give each of my blinds a name and then raise or lower them with Alexa, yes, I could assign each blind to a room and a floor and then control the entire group together, yes, I could also do this based on time schedules—except on weekends and holidays and during full moons, because I sleep poorly and therefore longer then...
But configuring all of this is currently so unintuitive that it simply isn’t enjoyable for the average person.
The problem with smart homes is still not feasibility, but convenience.
Yes, I could give each of my blinds a name and then raise or lower them with Alexa, yes, I could assign each blind to a room and a floor and then control the entire group together, yes, I could also do this based on time schedules—except on weekends and holidays and during full moons, because I sleep poorly and therefore longer then...
But configuring all of this is currently so unintuitive that it simply isn’t enjoyable for the average person.
Let's be honest. In a smart home, you hardly ever operate the blinds manually anymore. They do what they are supposed to on their own, and yes, 2 or 3 to 10 times a year you have to temporarily override the automation for reasons that just happen to arise at those moments.
However, for some reason, most people want to control the shading/darkening manually — precisely because of these rare cases.
Because it might be this...
But what if...
And what if not?
This is where the possible "intelligence" of the house starts to break down piece by piece or completely, because people absolutely do not want to give up control over things like blinds/shading/venetian blinds/lights/heating, etc.
Yet life is actually quite comfortable when you only need or want to press switches at most those 2 or 3 to 10 times a year or control them via voice command.
However, for some reason, most people want to control the shading/darkening manually — precisely because of these rare cases.
Because it might be this...
But what if...
And what if not?
This is where the possible "intelligence" of the house starts to break down piece by piece or completely, because people absolutely do not want to give up control over things like blinds/shading/venetian blinds/lights/heating, etc.
Yet life is actually quite comfortable when you only need or want to press switches at most those 2 or 3 to 10 times a year or control them via voice command.
Personally, I have enough common sense to manage lighting, shading, and yes, even doing my own shopping. Conveniently, nature has equipped me with two hands and ten fingers to help with that. I am very grateful to my house for keeping me warm and dry, and in my opinion, it also looks good and offers nice views. I don’t ask for more than that. If I ever feel the urge to talk to objects (you get a bit strange as you get older), I’ll just find a parking meter 🙂
Otherwise, I thought the landscaper did a good job on the film house – the tidal pool was well done too 😉
Otherwise, I thought the landscaper did a good job on the film house – the tidal pool was well done too 😉
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Stefan00113 Dec 2021 13:20Mycraft schrieb:
Let's be honest. In a smart home, you hardly ever operate the blinds manually anymore. They do what they're supposed to automatically, and yes, you might need to override the system briefly two to ten times a year for reasons that just come up at that moment.
For some reason, most people still prefer to control shading/darkening manually, precisely because of those rare cases.
Because what if...
But what if...
And what if not?
And this is where the potential "intelligence" of the house gets partially or completely thrown out the window because people absolutely don’t want to give up control over things like blinds/shading/venetian blinds/lights/heating, and so on.
But life is actually easier when you only need to press a switch two to ten times per year at most—or control it by voice command.I’m with you on that, but is there even a system available for the average user that works well enough yet? I haven’t seen any setup wizard guiding me through questions like: "When do you want to wake up in the morning? Do you sleep in on weekends? Should the blinds only open once there’s no one left in the bedroom?"Everything still has to be programmed as rigidly and blindly as it was 20 years ago. There’s no "standard package" of smart roller shutters with PIR sensors for bedrooms widely available on the mass market that automatically discover each other over the home network and just work.
And yes, that’s all technically possible, but it hasn’t reached the mass market yet and currently requires too much customization.
@Stefan001
The thing is that a smart home really is a tailor-made solution, like a custom suit, and in my opinion, that will largely remain the case (at least in the foreseeable future). Of course, a house can already "learn" a bit now and eventually adapt more to its occupants as technology advances, but I doubt there will ever be a setup assistant that covers everything. At least not with "standard sets"—that will mostly stay in the realm of toys.
Sometimes I don’t even know that myself, and I don’t want to be asked all the time. You define a time window and maybe set an alarm. Within those parameters, the system operates and should neither wake me up too early nor too late. Opening blinds and natural light are certainly not a disadvantage here and are far more pleasant than beeping sounds from a device on the bedside table.
That also depends on the situation, and the house should be aware of that and react accordingly. This scenario already works quite well nowadays if you have the right technology.
A setup assistant is overrated in my view. The house’s electrical installation has to be done by a qualified electrician anyway. There is no way around that, and as long as Tesla’s secrets remain undiscovered, we rely on electrical wiring. So why shouldn’t the electrician handle the smart system installation as well?
Only then should the house learn independently or by instruction and offer me options to customize its behavior as I need it. Because no two houses are the same, and no two occupants are the same. Why should there be sets designed for mass use?
Great, you probably just enjoy it, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Of course, a horse-drawn carriage will get you around. But there’s more out there.
The thing is that a smart home really is a tailor-made solution, like a custom suit, and in my opinion, that will largely remain the case (at least in the foreseeable future). Of course, a house can already "learn" a bit now and eventually adapt more to its occupants as technology advances, but I doubt there will ever be a setup assistant that covers everything. At least not with "standard sets"—that will mostly stay in the realm of toys.
Stefan001 schrieb:
"When do you want to get up in the morning?
Sometimes I don’t even know that myself, and I don’t want to be asked all the time. You define a time window and maybe set an alarm. Within those parameters, the system operates and should neither wake me up too early nor too late. Opening blinds and natural light are certainly not a disadvantage here and are far more pleasant than beeping sounds from a device on the bedside table.
Stefan001 schrieb:
Do you sleep longer on weekends?
That also depends on the situation, and the house should be aware of that and react accordingly. This scenario already works quite well nowadays if you have the right technology.
A setup assistant is overrated in my view. The house’s electrical installation has to be done by a qualified electrician anyway. There is no way around that, and as long as Tesla’s secrets remain undiscovered, we rely on electrical wiring. So why shouldn’t the electrician handle the smart system installation as well?
Only then should the house learn independently or by instruction and offer me options to customize its behavior as I need it. Because no two houses are the same, and no two occupants are the same. Why should there be sets designed for mass use?
Hangman schrieb:
Personally, I have enough biological intelligence to manage lighting, shading, and yes, even doing my own shopping.
Great, you probably just enjoy it, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Of course, a horse-drawn carriage will get you around. But there’s more out there.
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