Hello everyone,
After still being unsuccessful in finding a plot of land (I just received a rejection yesterday), and considering the decision of the local council, where chances from outside seem quite limited, I also attended a new construction project. The contractual setup is, as I have mentioned in one of my previous posts, the same again: the owner sells the land, a planner must be paid separately, and a production house provider builds the house (a network where each party earns some extra). Basically, a lot fits: the development seems well planned. The location is ideal for me: infrastructure, proximity to work, schools, etc. There are between 6 and 10 terraced houses planned, depending on size, arranged around a corner with a courtyard (greened), which sounds good at first.
But now there is one thing I am really concerned about: the owner is building an underground garage with direct access to the basements (it is planned that each house will have 2 parking spaces in the basement, meaning about half of the basement space is allocated to the garage). The garden is completely above the underground garage. A soil layer of 60cm (24 inches) is planned. How is this supposed to work with plants and, especially, rainwater? How will the water drain? What makes me a bit uncertain about the project: you basically buy the land, including the basement and underground parking space, from the owner (only via notarized purchase contract). Then the house comes separately from the production house manufacturer (fixed building contract)...meaning I am the client. What should I watch out for here? If the rainwater drainage and sewage system are not fully taken care of, I will end up with puddles in the garden. I also think it will probably be difficult to grow plants. It will likely be limited to some shrubs and lawn area. Maybe a small fig tree or something. I might be able to live with that. The plots are not big anyway, and what do you really want to plant in a row house garden? Of course, a building plot would have been better. But you just don’t get any of those here anymore.
Oh, and the cost for the project is between 600,000 and 650,000 (depending on the plot size between 200 and 250 sq m (2,150 and 2,690 sq ft)), but about 35 sq m (375 sq ft) of communal area still has to be deducted.
Thank you in advance for your opinions.
After still being unsuccessful in finding a plot of land (I just received a rejection yesterday), and considering the decision of the local council, where chances from outside seem quite limited, I also attended a new construction project. The contractual setup is, as I have mentioned in one of my previous posts, the same again: the owner sells the land, a planner must be paid separately, and a production house provider builds the house (a network where each party earns some extra). Basically, a lot fits: the development seems well planned. The location is ideal for me: infrastructure, proximity to work, schools, etc. There are between 6 and 10 terraced houses planned, depending on size, arranged around a corner with a courtyard (greened), which sounds good at first.
But now there is one thing I am really concerned about: the owner is building an underground garage with direct access to the basements (it is planned that each house will have 2 parking spaces in the basement, meaning about half of the basement space is allocated to the garage). The garden is completely above the underground garage. A soil layer of 60cm (24 inches) is planned. How is this supposed to work with plants and, especially, rainwater? How will the water drain? What makes me a bit uncertain about the project: you basically buy the land, including the basement and underground parking space, from the owner (only via notarized purchase contract). Then the house comes separately from the production house manufacturer (fixed building contract)...meaning I am the client. What should I watch out for here? If the rainwater drainage and sewage system are not fully taken care of, I will end up with puddles in the garden. I also think it will probably be difficult to grow plants. It will likely be limited to some shrubs and lawn area. Maybe a small fig tree or something. I might be able to live with that. The plots are not big anyway, and what do you really want to plant in a row house garden? Of course, a building plot would have been better. But you just don’t get any of those here anymore.
Oh, and the cost for the project is between 600,000 and 650,000 (depending on the plot size between 200 and 250 sq m (2,150 and 2,690 sq ft)), but about 35 sq m (375 sq ft) of communal area still has to be deducted.
Thank you in advance for your opinions.
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HubiTrubi4023 May 2021 20:17...what I also don't understand is why the current owner is building an underground garage and the house basements and then selling them, so that the plot buyers already purchase the underground garage section along with the basement. But maybe this is easier to implement.
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nordanney23 May 2021 20:23HubiTrubi40 schrieb:
The fact is that the parking spaces are planned underneath the house with their own access from the basement. The parking space itself naturally belongs to the owner of the property above. What is also true is that the garden above belongs to that property, but the underground garage area below that is not part of the parking spaces will likely be common property.
On the other hand, the plan treats the area above the underground garage that practically remains and does not belong to the individual plots as common property. I’m just saying that this is an unusual arrangement that involves many aspects to consider—legal ownership, financing, and the actual contracts. As I mentioned, in over 20 years I have only encountered something like this as a condominium or strata scheme structure.
ypg schrieb:
Living in your own home in Eimeldingen – what more could you want?Unfortunately, I still can’t find it using other parts of your post either – where exactly did you see it being advertised?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
HubiTrubi40 schrieb:
The fact is that the parking spaces are planned under the house with their own access from the basement. Of course, the parking space itself then belongs to the owner of the property above. I wonder: three stories are mentioned. Are these three full stories plus basement, two full stories plus attic plus basement, or do they mean two full stories plus basement counted as full stories, or two full stories plus attic plus basement ROOM with two parking spaces?
Do you have direct access to YOUR basement and your parking spaces and share only the driveway? Or do you have to use common areas to reach your basement?
Do you have plans?
In this forum, shared ownership (homeowners’ association) is usually discouraged. I think that can’t be said in general.
And a row house with shared access doesn’t automatically mean a shared ownership (homeowners’ association).
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nordanney23 May 2021 21:01ypg schrieb:
In this forum, WEG is generally discouraged.With proper regulations, it can be used like sole ownership. I don’t think it’s a bad option.H
HubiTrubi4024 May 2021 18:49ypg schrieb:
I’m wondering: when they mention 3 floors, are those 3 full stories plus basement, 2 full stories plus attic plus basement, or do they mean 2 full stories plus basement counted as full floors, or 2 full stories plus attic plus basement ROOM with 2 parking spaces?
Do you have direct access to YOUR basement and your parking spaces and only share the driveway? Or do you have to use common areas to get to your basement?
Do you have plans?
In this forum, WEG (condominium ownership) is usually discouraged. I think you can’t say that in general terms.
And a terraced house with shared access doesn’t automatically mean WEG. To be honest, I don’t know exactly yet. That was only described during the project presentation. I think both options are possible: direct access through the house to the basement and access through the underground garage, which would then be on common property. I have often seen terraced houses with direct access to underground parking spaces, so I don’t think that’s unusual. What is probably true is that the garden, which I buy as part of the plot, is located above the underground garage and not just above the two parking spaces. This raises the question for me whether the part of the underground garage directly under my garden is also part of my property, including liability for any damage, or if that is again common property (garage only). I would have to ask about that. I also wonder why the current owner of the land is building the underground garage including the basements for the houses, and you practically buy the plot with the basement and underground parking space already built from the current owner, and then the house is built on top afterwards. I guess this has financial benefits for the seller...
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