ᐅ Build a retaining wall approximately 2.5 meters (about 8 feet) high.

Created on: 4 Aug 2020 12:46
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Saarländer79
Hello,
is it possible to build a retaining wall about 250cm (8 feet) high using concrete formwork blocks, so that the ground on top can be driven over by a car without the retaining wall breaking or shifting?

I was thinking of concrete formwork blocks measuring 50 x 25 x 17.5cm (20 x 10 x 7 inches)... of course reinforced with steel rebar and fully filled with concrete.
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Crossy
5 Aug 2020 16:56
But 17.5 concrete form blocks are a joke for that height and load. Have a structural engineer calculate it. I think it will be difficult even with 30 cm (12 inch) concrete form blocks if there’s a parking space on top.
11ant5 Aug 2020 19:08
I think 24/25 cm (9.5/10 inches) should be sufficient – but not as a solid wall, rather secured laterally in a stepped manner.
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Saarländer79
5 Aug 2020 22:20
11ant schrieb:

I think 24/25 cm (9.5/10 inches) should be enough – but not as a wall, rather stepped and secured crosswise.
I can imagine that too... in any case, it would look better than this embankment (also shaped), and I would have a bit more usable plot area.

But I will talk to a structural engineer when I get the chance to see what they recommend. Whether it’s possible with formwork blocks or only with L-shaped blocks.
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danixf
5 Aug 2020 22:27
Saarländer79 schrieb:

I have considered L-shaped blocks as well, but a wall like that can quickly cost around $25,000.

I need to talk to a structural engineer to figure out how to support it properly.

Planting blocks could work too. You would need to install them with the appropriate slope. Visually, though, I think they look quite poor. I’m estimating about 20 meters (66 feet), though it might be a bit more.
20 meters (66 feet) of L-shaped blocks of that size cost around $8,000. If the landscaping contractor has good rates, maybe even less. I think $25,000 is too high. Still, it’s a lot of money.
For the formwork blocks, you’ll need a footing so you can reach a wall height of at least 3 meters (10 feet). Mixing concrete yourself is out of the question at these quantities, so ready-mix concrete with a pump will be necessary. I checked the numbers again—this would be about $3,500 just for the concrete.
The formwork blocks alone would be another $2,000 or so... financially, that’s really a whole different league. I didn’t expect it to be that expensive.

Do you need to cover the entire area or not? A two- or three-tier solution might be possible. That way, the load would be distributed more effectively.
11ant5 Aug 2020 22:33
Has it been considered that the property should be aligned with the neighbor’s and, not least, that drainage should take place on your own land?
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Saarländer79
5 Aug 2020 22:43
danixf schrieb:

Gabion walls could also work. Just install them with the proper slope. Visually, however, I find them quite low quality. I’ll simply assume 20m (66 feet). I think it’s actually a bit more.
20m (66 feet) of L-shaped retaining wall blocks of this size cost around 8k. If the landscaping contractor has good terms, even less. I think 25k is too much. Still, of course, a lot of money.
For the formwork blocks, you need a foundation to reach at least 3m (10 feet) wall height. Mixing concrete yourself is absolutely out of the question with these quantities, so ready-mix concrete with a pump will be necessary. I just checked again for us — that would be about 3500€ for the wall.
You’ll have to spend about 2000€ more on the formwork blocks... So financially, it really is a completely different level. I didn’t expect it to be that significant.

Do you need the entire area or not? A 2- or 3-tiered solution could be considered. This way, the load is distributed more evenly.

It’s 15m (49 feet) to the house, and the entire plot is just under 60m (197 feet).