ᐅ Turning Loose Fill into a Stabilized Fill Using Wallpaper Adhesive?

Thanks to Zapp, the proven quality of good components is definitely a strong argument. At €200, I wouldn’t complain, but as mentioned, whether fixed or loose, where should the material go underneath? Both conditions are acceptable and desired.

The necessary time for everything to dry out is a basic prerequisite; after all, I am not sealing in moisture.

Someone comes along and wants to use their own mixture of alcohol, oil, and other substances in their car instead of gasoline, because in the long run it would be cheaper. They ask if this is possible. Many others say there must be good reasons to use gasoline, since no one knows what the homemade mixture could do after two days or three years. Then the person with the idea replies that such advice is useless from people who simply refuse to think outside the box and be a bit flexible. So who is right? You are free to pour such a concoction into your engine, but please don’t criticize others for raising concerns here. What exactly are you expecting?

@HausiKlausi
I thought it was basically understood that I am only referring to very specific individuals here.
It’s not those who contribute positively by thinking ahead, writing a lot, and providing comparisons, but those who make brief, often offbeat or ambiguous remarks that don’t help anyone fundamentally and seem to serve only a form of personal self-promotion. Usually, these individuals just wait for the wrong response, which almost always leads to conflict.

Let’s take a look at candidate Pierre.
If you study some of his own posts, it quickly becomes clear what kind of person he is.
He likes to present himself as someone who can afford certain things; his house is even built by third parties. But he can’t even assemble his Ikea cabinet without breaking something big and expensive... You can read all about it...
So what does this user [B] care about the topic at hand if he apparently has no practical skills himself, but still posts his worthless narcissistic opinions? Nothing more came from him, and nothing more is to be expected from this user. And there are far too many like this...

Do you know how it is on Google when it says: [solved]
I like clicking on those because you can assume you won’t get caught up in a personal insult war where genuine answers eventually stop.

Back to the topic of gasoline.
Someone else has already thought about this privately and is light years ahead of all his mockers and envious critics.
With a pyrolysis plant, you can produce your own “DIN fuel” today.
What do you need for that?
Your waste!

So if I start a new thread asking,
“I want to produce genuine DIN fuel from my waste,”
guess how much laughter and ridicule this sparks.
Every conceivable incompetence that people can harbor surfaces and completely suffocates the thread’s potential for usefulness.

I think it was Kasparov who said, “I’m playing against the whole world!”
Checkmate within a few moves!
Why?
Because the masses don’t really understand chess.
The masses/majority decide the next move, not the few experts on the sidelines.

Just a question: who here has actually ever worked with loose fill?
My only concern isn’t the mix itself, whether it’s a premixed industrial slurry or homemade mixture, but whether any warping might occur during curing. I’ll find that out soon enough myself because I don’t believe I’ll ever find a brave supporter of my idea here.

But if it works perfectly and I even get it patented and introduced to the market, suddenly everyone will say they only use this good stuff for their construction sites. Using anything else would be wrong.

Phil333 schrieb:

But it works perfectly then

But it doesn’t. Because it shrinks very unevenly as it dries, you won’t get a uniform surface.

Phil333 schrieb:

@HausiKlausi
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Quick question: who here has actually worked with loose fill insulation/aggregate?
My only concern isn’t the slurry itself, whether pre-mixed industrial slurry or homemade, but whether any deformations might occur during curing. ...

Hi,

I trained as a draftsman, studied civil engineering with a practical semester, but have been working in IT for nearly 30 years, so my practical experience is limited and somewhat outdated, except for my own construction project.

Still (or maybe precisely because I like to think outside the box), I wouldn’t immediately dismiss every “repurposing.” I’ve had very good experiences using materials for purposes other than their intended ones. It just has to fit.

I believe deformations will be limited if the slurry is used sparingly. The loose fill itself is pressure-stable.

However: wallpaper paste mainly consists of methylcellulose, additives, and primarily water. This makes it an excellent breeding ground for mold. -> the floor could swell due to mold growth :-(

So it really needs to be fully dried out. And who checks inside the floor after several years to see what the conditions are like (moisture from below or completely ruled out from above)? The methylcellulose could then become “reactivated.”

You might want to consider using an inorganic adhesive (whatever that may be) as an alternative. Construction chemicals are complex and tricky!

Good luck!
zapp