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Tomtomsen1 Jun 2019 22:38Hello dear forum,
We have been struggling for a long time with the question of which type of construction is most suitable for our building project. Maybe the experts and homeowners here have some good advice for us. Please note in advance: only verifiable facts for discussion, no old sayings, thank you!
Now to our planned project:
- Energy-efficient house with photovoltaic system including buffer storage
- All electrical work and interior finishing to be done by ourselves (except plumbing)
- Basement to be avoided (rocky soil, cost savings)
- Heating system: air source heat pump with water storage tank
- Living space of 140-180 square meters (1500-1937 square feet) single-family home
- Snow load zone 2
- Modern architectural style, open layout with large window fronts
- Budget approximately 300,000-400,000 Euros
Is brick construction still worthwhile for a modern house, or is it better to save time and a lot of money by planning a prefab house?
Thank you very much for your support
We have been struggling for a long time with the question of which type of construction is most suitable for our building project. Maybe the experts and homeowners here have some good advice for us. Please note in advance: only verifiable facts for discussion, no old sayings, thank you!
Now to our planned project:
- Energy-efficient house with photovoltaic system including buffer storage
- All electrical work and interior finishing to be done by ourselves (except plumbing)
- Basement to be avoided (rocky soil, cost savings)
- Heating system: air source heat pump with water storage tank
- Living space of 140-180 square meters (1500-1937 square feet) single-family home
- Snow load zone 2
- Modern architectural style, open layout with large window fronts
- Budget approximately 300,000-400,000 Euros
Is brick construction still worthwhile for a modern house, or is it better to save time and a lot of money by planning a prefab house?
Thank you very much for your support
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or
and, by the way,
which hopefully means after purchasing the plot, or is that referring to equity?
What exactly should brick construction “offer,” how is it relevant today, in what way would “brick” relate to “prefabricated,” and what does “time and money” have to do with it if we are not talking about “old sayings” (which can only mean the myth of the solid masonry house versus the fast and more cost-secure prefab house)?
“Energy saving” combined with “open and large window fronts” only works if the house faces south on all sides (which is not feasible, as you yourself will notice). In addition, the plot—which is not described here—is one of the most important factors dictating what is possible and what is not.
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Tomtomsen schrieb:
Does brick construction still make sense for a modern house, or is it better to save time and a lot of money by planning a prefabricated house?
fit with, on the other hand,
Tomtomsen schrieb:
First, please: only verifiable facts for the discussion, no old sayings,
or
Tomtomsen schrieb:
Energy-efficient house, with photovoltaic panels including buffer storage
[...] The architectural style should be modern, open, and with large window fronts
and, by the way,
Tomtomsen schrieb:
Capital available is around 300,000-400,000€
which hopefully means after purchasing the plot, or is that referring to equity?
What exactly should brick construction “offer,” how is it relevant today, in what way would “brick” relate to “prefabricated,” and what does “time and money” have to do with it if we are not talking about “old sayings” (which can only mean the myth of the solid masonry house versus the fast and more cost-secure prefab house)?
“Energy saving” combined with “open and large window fronts” only works if the house faces south on all sides (which is not feasible, as you yourself will notice). In addition, the plot—which is not described here—is one of the most important factors dictating what is possible and what is not.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
You’re asking about solid construction versus timber frame construction.
Nowadays, it basically doesn’t matter which method you choose, as they are quite comparable. Energy efficiency is regulated by energy-saving standards, which can be met with either option. Personally, I believe that prefabricated construction for a single-family house tends to be about 10% more expensive, but you gain more flexibility in the floor plan design (no load-bearing walls, only supporting columns and beams). The construction time is about the same for both.
Build with the builder who gives you the best confidence that you’ll get good value for your money and the quality you want.
Nowadays, it basically doesn’t matter which method you choose, as they are quite comparable. Energy efficiency is regulated by energy-saving standards, which can be met with either option. Personally, I believe that prefabricated construction for a single-family house tends to be about 10% more expensive, but you gain more flexibility in the floor plan design (no load-bearing walls, only supporting columns and beams). The construction time is about the same for both.
Build with the builder who gives you the best confidence that you’ll get good value for your money and the quality you want.
Tomtomsen schrieb:And yes… haha… that sentence is one of those old clichés. The term “energy-saving house” doesn’t really exist anymore either.
Does brick construction still make sense for a modern house, or is it better to save time and a lot of money by planning a prefabricated house?
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Tomtomsen2 Jun 2019 07:19Maybe the sentence about saving money and time was a bit unclear. What I meant was that with a shorter construction period, we save a five-figure amount in rent.
Recently, at the model home park, I had a very pleasant conversation with a graduate engineer specializing in building materials.
The gentleman explained a few facts that made me question my initially positive impression of solid construction.
It was about the better insulation factor with the same or lower wall thickness and the more precise manufacture of wall elements in a factory compared to a shell construction built outdoors on a construction site.
This raises the question for me:
If weather resistance, durability, insulation performance, and quality of a prefab house are equal to or better than those of a solid house, why is so much solid construction still done?
If money is the only factor, then my question is already answered. Otherwise, please enlighten me.
P.S.: The land is already paid for.
P.P.S.: Maybe I have mixed things up a bit—I want to compare prefab house construction with solid house construction, and we were told that the shell of a prefab house can be completed in up to 4 days, which saves 6 to 10 months compared to a solid house?
Recently, at the model home park, I had a very pleasant conversation with a graduate engineer specializing in building materials.
The gentleman explained a few facts that made me question my initially positive impression of solid construction.
It was about the better insulation factor with the same or lower wall thickness and the more precise manufacture of wall elements in a factory compared to a shell construction built outdoors on a construction site.
This raises the question for me:
If weather resistance, durability, insulation performance, and quality of a prefab house are equal to or better than those of a solid house, why is so much solid construction still done?
If money is the only factor, then my question is already answered. Otherwise, please enlighten me.
P.S.: The land is already paid for.
P.P.S.: Maybe I have mixed things up a bit—I want to compare prefab house construction with solid house construction, and we were told that the shell of a prefab house can be completed in up to 4 days, which saves 6 to 10 months compared to a solid house?
Tomtomsen schrieb:
that the shell of the prefabricated house is completed in up to 4 days That is correct if you start counting from the delivery date. However, the house components also need to be manufactured. Have you ever ordered a new car equipped to your own specifications? And a foundation slab isn’t built in a single day either.
Tomtomsen schrieb:
we were led to believe At the model home exhibition – of course. That’s where the salespeople are. The design offices are usually located centrally, often far from the construction site. Communication can sometimes slow down.
So, read contracts carefully. General answers about construction time are not possible. The local builder is often faster than a prefabricated house supplier.
There was the usual hype again.
It’s true that with timber frame construction the house is erected in 4 days (quite long, most take 2), but it takes months until the walls are actually produced. In this region, there are many timber frame companies. From what people say, most have about a 12-month wait until the installation date.
There’s no time saved in the shell construction phase. Whether the solid construction builder starts after 10 months or the prefab house company after 12 months,
the interior finishing takes just as long, at most the timber frame builder finishes more work in advance.
Wall thickness will be about the same.
Don’t commit to one construction method too early.
Do you have a sloped plot?
What energy standard are you aiming for?
Your budget will be tight. You need someone who can schedule your house quickly,
who allows you to contribute your own work,
who calculates your self-work at its actual value,
who understands you,
who treats you as an equal.
You are probably better off with a small local company,
regardless of whether it’s masonry, timber frame, or solid wood.
It’s true that with timber frame construction the house is erected in 4 days (quite long, most take 2), but it takes months until the walls are actually produced. In this region, there are many timber frame companies. From what people say, most have about a 12-month wait until the installation date.
There’s no time saved in the shell construction phase. Whether the solid construction builder starts after 10 months or the prefab house company after 12 months,
the interior finishing takes just as long, at most the timber frame builder finishes more work in advance.
Wall thickness will be about the same.
Don’t commit to one construction method too early.
Do you have a sloped plot?
What energy standard are you aiming for?
Your budget will be tight. You need someone who can schedule your house quickly,
who allows you to contribute your own work,
who calculates your self-work at its actual value,
who understands you,
who treats you as an equal.
You are probably better off with a small local company,
regardless of whether it’s masonry, timber frame, or solid wood.
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