ᐅ Air source heat pump, hydronic fireplace stove, how they work, underfloor heating?
Created on: 24 Feb 2012 10:52
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phobos
Hello!
Who can explain to me how an outdoor air-source heat pump works in combination with a non-water-based wood stove?
I just can’t find any explanation online about how this works technically.
This system seems to be the right choice for us since we want underfloor heating in our new single-family home and, for cozy warmth, we wanted a wood stove anyway.
Thanks in advance for any information.
Regards,
phobos
Who can explain to me how an outdoor air-source heat pump works in combination with a non-water-based wood stove?
I just can’t find any explanation online about how this works technically.
This system seems to be the right choice for us since we want underfloor heating in our new single-family home and, for cozy warmth, we wanted a wood stove anyway.
Thanks in advance for any information.
Regards,
phobos
Hello,
we are also building a house (KF70 standard) with a heat pump.
We will definitely install an additional wood stove.
For this, I do not need to calculate energy efficiency, room heating load, or costs.
Common sense is completely sufficient here....
Reasons for this:
– cozy warmth, preferably over 25°C (77°F) in the living room :-)
– with the wood stove, it is possible to heat the entire house for weeks during the transition period without using the heat pump
– what happens if the power goes out for a few days? Minus 10°C (14°F) and no heating, so what then?
The wood stove will keep the whole house safely above freezing
– I live in a small town, a rural area, and have been sourcing firewood myself for years.
Whether this is financially worthwhile is secondary for us. Even if I had 100€ more in annual consumption, I would still install it.
And yes, I love wood stoves!
we are also building a house (KF70 standard) with a heat pump.
We will definitely install an additional wood stove.
For this, I do not need to calculate energy efficiency, room heating load, or costs.
Common sense is completely sufficient here....
Reasons for this:
– cozy warmth, preferably over 25°C (77°F) in the living room :-)
– with the wood stove, it is possible to heat the entire house for weeks during the transition period without using the heat pump
– what happens if the power goes out for a few days? Minus 10°C (14°F) and no heating, so what then?
The wood stove will keep the whole house safely above freezing
– I live in a small town, a rural area, and have been sourcing firewood myself for years.
Whether this is financially worthwhile is secondary for us. Even if I had 100€ more in annual consumption, I would still install it.
And yes, I love wood stoves!
hawken schrieb:
...Common sense is completely sufficient here.... That is already a very good prerequisite, but it can also be misleading 😉 Anyone who thinks they don’t need an overall sufficient plan must live with the final result. 😉 hawken schrieb:
...Reasons for this:
-with the wood stove, you can heat the entire house for weeks during the transitional period without the heat pump Well, I’d like to see that 🙂 More than 12 hours of refueling during the day currently? How do you want to supply an entire house with just a wood-burning stove (heat distribution)?
hawken schrieb:
...And yes, I love wood stoves! Me too, that’s why I have a masonry stove for the main heating loads 🙂Best regards
M
Micha&Dany25 Feb 2012 07:53Hello
I am currently planning to install an air-source heat pump along with a wood-burning stove. The necessary calculations haven’t been done yet but will be 😀
We will install a wood-burning stove because it simply creates a cozy atmosphere – not for financial reasons.
What I’m wondering beforehand is: Does a hydronic wood-burning stove make sense? The additional cost would need to be financially worthwhile. Are there any general tendencies or experiences regarding this (without detailed calculations)?
(Yes, I will also ask my building services engineer about this – but that will take a few weeks…)
Since we are also installing a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery, are there even wood-burning stoves that are both room air independent and hydronic? 😕
Best regards
Micha 😀
I am currently planning to install an air-source heat pump along with a wood-burning stove. The necessary calculations haven’t been done yet but will be 😀
We will install a wood-burning stove because it simply creates a cozy atmosphere – not for financial reasons.
What I’m wondering beforehand is: Does a hydronic wood-burning stove make sense? The additional cost would need to be financially worthwhile. Are there any general tendencies or experiences regarding this (without detailed calculations)?
(Yes, I will also ask my building services engineer about this – but that will take a few weeks…)
Since we are also installing a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery, are there even wood-burning stoves that are both room air independent and hydronic? 😕
Best regards
Micha 😀
Hey €uro!
What’s going on with you?
You’re running through my thread shouting and claiming that I’m resistant to advice! 😡
How do you come to that conclusion?
I’m wondering if you even read my thread? If you did, you would know what I asked and what information I requested.
Somehow, I feel like you don’t fully understand me.
Please read my first post again.
If you can now explain how it works, then please share. Otherwise, just don’t.
It’s really kind of you to want to share all your knowledge with me. But I’m not that far yet. There’s no plan, no calculations, or anything like that.
That will probably come later, but I’m nowhere near that stage yet.
And please spare me explanations like
Those are your opinions, not explanations.
That doesn’t help me or others who want to understand how it actually works at all.
You agree, right?
No hard feelings, Euro. It’s not meant negatively. You seem to be an expert. I’m a total beginner. 😉
Maybe someone else could explain to me how an air-to-water heat pump works together with a wood stove? How is the stove’s heat used together with the heat pump?
Regards,
phobos
What’s going on with you?
You’re running through my thread shouting and claiming that I’m resistant to advice! 😡
How do you come to that conclusion?
I’m wondering if you even read my thread? If you did, you would know what I asked and what information I requested.
Somehow, I feel like you don’t fully understand me.
Please read my first post again.
If you can now explain how it works, then please share. Otherwise, just don’t.
It’s really kind of you to want to share all your knowledge with me. But I’m not that far yet. There’s no plan, no calculations, or anything like that.
That will probably come later, but I’m nowhere near that stage yet.
And please spare me explanations like
It provides heat,or
There are two heat sources, but the wood stove doesn’t have a lasting effect, just a temporary “cozy result.”
Those are your opinions, not explanations.
That doesn’t help me or others who want to understand how it actually works at all.
You agree, right?
No hard feelings, Euro. It’s not meant negatively. You seem to be an expert. I’m a total beginner. 😉
Maybe someone else could explain to me how an air-to-water heat pump works together with a wood stove? How is the stove’s heat used together with the heat pump?
Regards,
phobos
phobos schrieb:
... I am a complete novice.;).... And please spare me an explanation like... Yes, gladly!M
Micha&Dany25 Feb 2012 21:13phobos schrieb:
How is the heat from the stove used together with the heat pump?It is not used together at all.
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