ᐅ Demolition or renovation—what do you think?

Created on: 28 Jan 2019 14:19
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tumaa
Hello everyone,

I am planning a new build on my property, where there is currently an old building.

The plan was for the new build to be located further north and for the old building at the front to be demolished.

The building dates back to around 1900 and is about 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft).

The basement is damp, with water pushing in from below.

The house was heated with oil.

The ground floor looks okay, but the basement and upper floor need quite a bit of work.

What definitely needs to be replaced:
- Windows
- Electrical system
- New radiators
- New oil boiler?
- All floors
- All walls
- Possibly roof work
Around 50–60k USD (or equivalent)?

Under certain conditions, the old building could remain without demolition (I don’t want to go into detail about that here).

One idea I have:
- The garages and extension attached to the old building would be removed, and my parents would move into the old building after renovation. They are looking for a new place in a few months. The entrance would then be on the northeast side.
My father would help me financially and would also pay rent. I estimate the old building to be about 145 sqm (1,560 sq ft).

If my parents are no longer living there someday, the demolition could then take place.

What is your assessment? I have uploaded some pictures. A few architects have already visited the building but weren’t certain.

Dachboden mit sichtbaren Holzbalken, Ziegeldecke und bröckelnden Wänden.


Rustikales Wohnzimmer mit Kamin, Holzbalken, brauner Tür, gepolsterter Stuhl und Körben.


Kellerraum mit Bett, Decke, Kleidung, zwei roten Kühlboxen mit Topf darauf, Körbe.


Badezimmer mit Toilette links, Waschbecken rechts, schwarze Fliesen, Fensterbank mit Reinigungsmitteln


Kellerraum mit alter Metallpresse links, kleines Fenster, Eimer und Schläuche auf dem Boden.


Enge Kellertreppe aus Beton mit Holzhandlauf an der Wand, unten dunkler Bereich.


Dachboden mit Holzbalkendecke; weiße Wandpaneele, darauf antike Waffen wie Pistolen ausgestellt.


Gelbes Einfamilienhaus mit rotem Ziegeldach, Gartenzaun, Hydrangea-Sträucher und davor geparktes Auto.


Person in schwarzer Kleidung steht vor dunkler Eingangstür eines Hauses; Fenster links.


Große cremefarbene Stofflampe mit goldener Zierkante und Fransen im Wohnzimmer, Sofa im Hintergrund.
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haydee
28 Jan 2019 15:04
Find an expert who specializes in renovating and assessing older buildings.

In 2017, during demolition, I learned only one thing: what looked good on the surface was not so great, and what was initially judged as bad was actually not that bad.
Winniefred28 Jan 2019 15:15
Solid year of construction, and I find it charming. I’m generally a fan of older buildings. I would renovate it, especially if your parents need a place anyway. You could also rent it out after your parents, since it’s detached and has a comfortable size.

As for cost estimation... it’s hard to say. Our house was also in poor condition inside. So far, we have spent about 60,000 on renovation (ceilings, floors, walls, 2 toilets, 1 bathroom, roof insulation, interior doors, plumbing, electrical work, radiators— the gas boiler was fine— windows, roof windows). Still left to do: new front door, 3 windows, exterior basement plaster, new basement door, 2 interior doors.
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tumaa
28 Jan 2019 15:19
My parents will need a new place to live in a maximum of 10-12 months......

Renting or owning is difficult for them for several reasons.

I find it hard to rent directly to strangers, maybe to my parents at some point in the future.
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ypg
28 Jan 2019 17:39
This is definitely not a teardown!
11ant28 Jan 2019 19:47
ypg schrieb:
This is definitely not a dilapidated house!

... which we also discussed in https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-ca-150qm-ohne-Keller-wer-hat-Ideen-danke.28927/, and in my opinion, it is at least 30 years newer than "around 1900."
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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tumaa
28 Jan 2019 20:22
Some renovations were done at some point….. I never discussed them with the owner, who inherited the house, because I was planning to demolish it anyway.

The extension was added later as well… I think at the end of the 1980s?

It would probably be removed to create more garden space.