ᐅ Demolition or renovation—what do you think?

Created on: 28 Jan 2019 14:19
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tumaa
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tumaa
28 Jan 2019 14:19
Hello everyone,

I am planning a new build on my property, where there is currently an old building.

The plan was for the new build to be located further north and for the old building at the front to be demolished.

The building dates back to around 1900 and is about 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft).

The basement is damp, with water pushing in from below.

The house was heated with oil.

The ground floor looks okay, but the basement and upper floor need quite a bit of work.

What definitely needs to be replaced:
- Windows
- Electrical system
- New radiators
- New oil boiler?
- All floors
- All walls
- Possibly roof work
Around 50–60k USD (or equivalent)?

Under certain conditions, the old building could remain without demolition (I don’t want to go into detail about that here).

One idea I have:
- The garages and extension attached to the old building would be removed, and my parents would move into the old building after renovation. They are looking for a new place in a few months. The entrance would then be on the northeast side.
My father would help me financially and would also pay rent. I estimate the old building to be about 145 sqm (1,560 sq ft).

If my parents are no longer living there someday, the demolition could then take place.

What is your assessment? I have uploaded some pictures. A few architects have already visited the building but weren’t certain.

Dachboden mit sichtbaren Holzbalken, Ziegeldecke und bröckelnden Wänden.


Rustikales Wohnzimmer mit Kamin, Holzbalken, brauner Tür, gepolsterter Stuhl und Körben.


Kellerraum mit Bett, Decke, Kleidung, zwei roten Kühlboxen mit Topf darauf, Körbe.


Badezimmer mit Toilette links, Waschbecken rechts, schwarze Fliesen, Fensterbank mit Reinigungsmitteln


Kellerraum mit alter Metallpresse links, kleines Fenster, Eimer und Schläuche auf dem Boden.


Enge Kellertreppe aus Beton mit Holzhandlauf an der Wand, unten dunkler Bereich.


Dachboden mit Holzbalkendecke; weiße Wandpaneele, darauf antike Waffen wie Pistolen ausgestellt.


Gelbes Einfamilienhaus mit rotem Ziegeldach, Gartenzaun, Hydrangea-Sträucher und davor geparktes Auto.


Person in schwarzer Kleidung steht vor dunkler Eingangstür eines Hauses; Fenster links.


Große cremefarbene Stofflampe mit goldener Zierkante und Fransen im Wohnzimmer, Sofa im Hintergrund.
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tumaa
28 Jan 2019 14:20
more pictures....

Row of colorful houses with yellow, gray, and pink facades, wooden fence and green areas along the sidewalk


Large white house with red roofs, outbuilding, overgrown garden, and wooden fence; car parked at the edge.


Cluttered attic/basement with bed, blankets, boxes, and a tipped-over storage shelf.


Old bedroom: wooden bed with stacked blankets, chair, window with curtain, and radiator.


Attic with wooden beams, stacks of bricks, boxes, and a white household appliance by the window.


Two houses by the roadside: cream-colored on the left, pink on the right, wooden fence, bushes, camper van.


Empty room with radiator under window, closed blinds, open door on the right.


Round table with yellow-and-white checkered tablecloth in the basement room, cleaning supplies shelf visible.


Kitchen with wooden cabinets, oven in the center, cluttered countertop full of bottles and mugs.


Messy bedroom: bed with pile of clothes, two plastic bags at the foot of the bed.
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tumaa
28 Jan 2019 14:22
further...

Site map 1:500

The property was handed over swept clean.

Attic with dark wooden beams, bookshelf full of books, plastered walls and window with roller shutter.


Site plan of a plot with parcels 421, 423, 476, building 24 and compass rose.


Brown garage roll-up door on a light facade; dark passageway on the left, with weeds and grass in front.


Exterior photo of a house with two brown garages and weeds in the yard.


Ground floor plan: double garage, open plan living/dining area, kitchen, hallway, utility room, terrace.
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HilfeHilfe
28 Jan 2019 14:52
I find the idea absurd to invest 60,000 into it now and then tear the house down years later.

So, you don’t want to live there yourself, but only your parents?
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tumaa
28 Jan 2019 15:02
Yeah... intended for my parents.

Maybe I don’t need to invest as much, a friend who is a civil engineer estimated the costs at around 40,000€ (approximately 40k)......... later on, it will probably be after 20-30 years.

I would get at least 700€ (about $750) in rent.
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Steven
28 Jan 2019 15:04
Hello tumaa
60,000 euros (about 60,000 USD) can be spent quickly. The house has potential, but a lot needs to be invested. Is it worth it? Either renovate properly and maintain it later or get rid of it right away. If your parents want to live near you, there is probably another solution. A condominium (apartment) or rental nearby.

Steven