Hello!
I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
Dr Hix schrieb:
It may be that you have come to accept playing the role of the "maid" for others in your work environment and even like the associated working-class attitude ("The YPG is not afraid to get their hands dirty!") It's not just me; WE have to support each other—that is simply standard in this industry. Otherwise, you wouldn't be part of the largest safety company.
And there is no need to complain about being kind!
Dr Hix schrieb:
but about clients who hire professionals for payment (!) on their own construction site.
There, you are simply the bossWrong. He has a general contractor (GC) and the GC has their subcontractors.
mertmk3 schrieb:
With the amount of waste left here, I am busy for at least an entire day, have to borrow a trailer and a vehicle, and I’m completely exhausted afterward.
I don’t have to deal with that if it’s already paid for. If not, then it’s worth discussing whether it’s worth it to you.
The architect’s scope of work doesn’t mention waste disposal, and we don’t have a general contractor. The quotes from the individual trades also don’t include disposal.
I will bring this up with the site management.You probably should have arranged for a container.
Check on that.
Before you start borrowing a trailer and driving away, have the waste management company deliver a skip, load everything in, and have it collected.
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Mottenhausen10 Oct 2018 15:54Admirable how one can fill 19 pages with this topic. But at least now we are certain that... um, is there even a conclusion? No? Well, then it was worth it after all.
Mottenhausen schrieb:
It's impressive how this topic can fill 19 pages. But at least now we have the certainty that... um, is there a conclusion here? No? Well, then it was worth it.What I mainly took away is that flicking away a cigarette butt can be reported. The antisocial behavior is on the person who flicks the cigarette butt.
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chand198610 Oct 2018 17:59Alex85 schrieb:
So what I mainly took away is that someone can be reported for flicking away a cigarette butt. The antisocial person is the one flicking the butt.If I learned anything, it’s that probably two hours in the forum at an alternative hourly rate would have been enough to solve the problem. But since I didn’t have that, I can spend my time here as I please.