Hello!
I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
I had the landscaping contractor on site, and he told me to make sure that the general contractor leaves the construction site clean. He even said that if cigarette butts are left on the property afterwards, he would charge for waste disposal by subcontractors. Is that normal?
The general contractor, of course, says that he is not responsible for picking up his workers’ cigarette butts and considers small Poroton crumbs as acceptable residue left on the site. Now I’m not sure where exactly the line is—what does the general contractor have to do and what not? It’s actually quite simple: if I know what he is required to do, I can formally ask him to fully clean the property upon completing his work and report back to me. Then I can photograph any remaining debris, set a deadline for cleanup, and refer to deductions from the final payment if necessary.
Another point of discussion will definitely be all the “small” plaster residues in the bushes, etc.
How was it on your construction sites? The contract says nothing about this... sometimes you read about the interior being handed over “broom clean” — but I cannot find any similar term for final site condition outdoors and don’t know what is generally expected there.
Zaba12 schrieb:
No one could be that foolish to throw €125,000 at a landscaping contractor. Some people use that amount to buy a property. No one could be that foolish to buy a property for €500,000 (about $540,000). Some people raise six children with that amount!
aero2016 schrieb:
No one could be that foolish to buy a property for 500,000 euros. Some people raise six kids with that amount! So you’re saying Hotzi then earned a double D...? Don’t be so mean
I don’t think that’s very nice of you!
montessalet schrieb:
I know many people working in construction. The vast majority do not carelessly throw away waste.I also know plenty of office workers who use the waste bin under their desk for all kinds of trash, without considering that it is only meant for paper.
And in the office environment, waste separation is usually not practiced either in the break area/kitchenette/tea room, even though it should be.
But I would never call them antisocial for that.
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chand19869 Oct 2018 08:59ypg schrieb:
And in office settings, waste separation is usually not practiced in the coffee corner/kitchenette/tea room, even though it should be.But the tea bags are thrown in the bin, right? Or are they just left on the table or floor? That’s the point. Before waste separation, you first need a waste bin as a starting step.
Throwing cigarette butts around might be understandable if someone is working in construction mode. But if the client sets up ashtrays and says, “Dear people, please put cigarette butts here,” and they still get thrown around like before, that is antisocial behavior. It’s quite simple.
Or shorter: Construction workers are not automatically rude. But those who throw their trash around despite being asked not to, are.
During my time as a consultant, I spent several months at a client’s site in Erlangen.
I was standing in a smoking cabin when a Chinese man joined me.
Quick side note: you’re all familiar with the usual gray office carpets, right?
He took a drag from his cigarette, exhaled, and then spat onto the carpet. He did this deliberately with every puff until the cigarette was finished.
Was this normal behavior in his culture? Probably, but so what?
Generally, I’m pretty tolerant about such things. He is a guest in another country and should feel at home, but it was still kind of strange.
I was standing in a smoking cabin when a Chinese man joined me.
Quick side note: you’re all familiar with the usual gray office carpets, right?
He took a drag from his cigarette, exhaled, and then spat onto the carpet. He did this deliberately with every puff until the cigarette was finished.
Was this normal behavior in his culture? Probably, but so what?
Generally, I’m pretty tolerant about such things. He is a guest in another country and should feel at home, but it was still kind of strange.