ᐅ Cat droppings or wildlife scat? Warning: image of animal droppings!

Created on: 10 Jul 2018 13:03
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andimann
Hello everyone,

(Hope I don’t get banned right away for posting a bunch of crap…)

Some animal is leaving a pile of droppings on our lawn almost every night, strangely always in almost the same spot (plus or minus 2 m (6.5 ft)). At first, I suspected the neighbor’s cat, but the pile seems too large for a cat, right? Also, don’t cats usually go into garden beds rather than right in the middle of the lawn?

Grass in the garden with dog poop


Question: Can anyone tell me if this could still be cat droppings? If so, I guess a conversation with the neighbors is due.

I’m getting tired of cleaning it up every morning, and even more worried that my kids might step in it while playing or that my son might try to taste it. My nephew once caught worms that way, which was quite unpleasant. That really shouldn’t happen.

And if it’s something else: what could it be and, above all, how do I get rid of it?
Barbed wire, spring-loaded traps, anti-aircraft guns, nuclear bomb?

Best regards,
Andreas
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Evolith
24 Jul 2018 08:05
I only feel sympathy for the prey for a very short moment. To me, this is simply part of nature. Otherwise, I would be overwhelmed with sadness every time I watch a nature documentary. Some cats play with their prey for quite a while, while others make it quick and painless.

Personally, I even consider it beneficial for animal welfare when my cats help control the local populations of mice, rats, and rabbits. You wouldn’t want to see what it would look like if no predator took care of that.

When it comes to birds, opinions are divided. I still doubt that cats are THE main factor driving these animals toward extinction. So far, no one has been able to provide anything other than estimates to support that claim.

But yes, I am the first to call for mandatory neutering and identification for all cats—except those kept in registered and certified breeding facilities. Some cities are taking small steps in the right direction, but unfortunately, far too few.
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Steven
24 Jul 2018 10:02
Evolith schrieb:
Oh, I only feel sympathy for the prey for a very short time.

Hello Evolith

I’m not as cold as you are!
I find it terrible when a cat tortures a young rabbit to death for an hour. Obviously, you don’t care about the rabbit’s pain. How would you feel if someone killed your cat very slowly? Making it suffer for a long time? Or is this coldness only something you show towards other animals?
Cats kill out of cruelty, not because they are hungry. And this, which is unique in the animal kingdom, happens not quickly but as slowly as possible. Of course, they make no distinction between species. Whether it’s a rat or a rare kingfisher. They go out every day trying to kill as many animals as possible. Cat owners don’t care about this. That’s why I cannot understand your so-called love for animals. Someone called me a "cat hater." I can pass on the label "animal hater" to cat owners.
The cat population in Germany is hugely excessive. This has nothing to do with natural distribution. Regulatory measures need to be urgently implemented. Nature is suffering.

Steven
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apokolok
24 Jul 2018 10:02
Sorry, but the millions of house cats have nothing to do with nature; you are mistaken there.
The wildcat population in Germany is estimated to be around 5,000–7,000 individuals, so the birdlife can definitely cope without problems.
It is also part of nature that homeowners keep nuisance animals away from their property.
You are welcome to justify your love for them as you like, but it remains a personal hobby at the expense of nature and other people.
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Caidori
24 Jul 2018 10:16
Steven schrieb:
Cats kill out of predatory instinct, not because they are hungry. And this, which is unique in the animal kingdom, is done not quickly, but as slowly as possible.

Are you serious?
I can agree that cats might not always be necessary, and that in some places feral cats become a problem because they aren’t neutered or spayed.

But accusing an animal of murder and bloodlust is really entertaining.
It’s an animal – hunting, catching, and killing are its instincts. When it comes to this, cats are still quite primitive.

Our cats, bred over generations as indoor house cats without outdoor access – if an animal wanders inside here, it will be killed.
This instinct is deeply rooted in the animals and cannot be compared to other domesticated animals (my favorite example here is dogs).

Regardless of the annoyance, one should keep things in perspective.
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chand1986
24 Jul 2018 10:19
This is getting quite meta. What counts as nature, what doesn’t, and is humanity part of it or not?

Let’s put it this way: This behavior is natural for cats, but it occurs at an unnaturally high frequency. Simply because a natural cat population would have far fewer animals per area than what results from free-roaming cats.

So you can’t just say, “That’s just nature.” No, it isn’t.

However, if you feel sympathy for the prey animals being tormented, then ask yourself: Are you a vegan yourself? Because through your own diet, you constantly cause animal suffering if you are not. Feeling sorry for a rabbit tormented by a cat, but then an hour later serving yourself some juicy pulled pork from the smoker, is kind of contradictory.
kaho67424 Jul 2018 10:26
Steven schrieb:
Hello Evoltih,
I’m not as indifferent as you are!
I find it terrible when a cat tortures a young rabbit to death for an hour.

I don’t find your arguments very convincing either. Killing the cat because it defecates in the garden would be acceptable to you, but when the cat catches mice, you find it terribly cruel. That’s just nonsense.

Nature is cruel. Haven’t noticed yet? Just look at how humans torture other humans. You can learn something from that. Or how humans torment animals for fun. Large animals torment smaller ones. Insects eat other insects alive. Life as a whole is one big struggle. Even trees fight against other trees. Paradise, where everyone peacefully lies full and content next to each other, exists only after death—at least for those who believe in it.