ᐅ Painting 90 square meters by non-professionals – what budget would you estimate?
Created on: 21 Jun 2017 12:56
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Mizit
We are considering not renovating or painting our apartment ourselves when we move out, but instead hiring two students – the university nearby means it should be easy to find someone for this kind of work quickly.
Our apartment is about 90 sqm (970 sq ft), consisting of a hallway, living room/kitchen, and two rooms. It is currently uncertain whether the bathroom ceilings will need to be painted.
There are a few drill holes in the walls that need to be repaired, but otherwise it should just be painting.
The regular textured wallpaper will be painted white again. No one has smoked here, and the walls are still in relatively good condition. The quality of the paint used when we moved in was rather mediocre. Accordingly, we do not plan to buy the most expensive materials for painting, probably something from a hardware store, plus supplies like masking film, brushes, etc. I hope to manage with about 200 euros (around $220) for painting and renovation materials.
What do you estimate would be the amount to pay two amateur workers who ideally have done this before? How many hours would they need, and is paying 8–10 euros (about $9–11) per hour realistic?
For various reasons, I want this to be legal work. So also with insurance in case someone falls from a ladder. How and where does this need to be registered?
Our apartment is about 90 sqm (970 sq ft), consisting of a hallway, living room/kitchen, and two rooms. It is currently uncertain whether the bathroom ceilings will need to be painted.
There are a few drill holes in the walls that need to be repaired, but otherwise it should just be painting.
The regular textured wallpaper will be painted white again. No one has smoked here, and the walls are still in relatively good condition. The quality of the paint used when we moved in was rather mediocre. Accordingly, we do not plan to buy the most expensive materials for painting, probably something from a hardware store, plus supplies like masking film, brushes, etc. I hope to manage with about 200 euros (around $220) for painting and renovation materials.
What do you estimate would be the amount to pay two amateur workers who ideally have done this before? How many hours would they need, and is paying 8–10 euros (about $9–11) per hour realistic?
For various reasons, I want this to be legal work. So also with insurance in case someone falls from a ladder. How and where does this need to be registered?
If you don’t want to strain the relationship and want to leave with a clear conscience, it’s at least advisable to have a conversation with the landlord. Be open and honest.
I understand that with two small children, you probably don’t want to argue about painting. I already have enough on my plate with my own construction project.
I understand that with two small children, you probably don’t want to argue about painting. I already have enough on my plate with my own construction project.
I can’t imagine getting away with this cheaply. Finding students who want to and are able to do the painting seems optimistic to me. Even if someone does agree, that doesn’t necessarily mean they will actually show up.
So the only options are hiring a professional company or doing it yourself. Maybe the landlord knows an affordable painter you could pay? Our moving company also offered to do the painting, but that was very expensive. Otherwise, I could imagine starting weeks in advance to tape off as much as possible.
For painting, we bought a spray machine. Wearing full protective clothing, we were able to whitewash the entire apartment (150m² (1,615 sq ft) including the basement) in no time (2 days). The landlord was really impressed when he saw it – it looked like new. But everything has to be taped off very carefully.
So the only options are hiring a professional company or doing it yourself. Maybe the landlord knows an affordable painter you could pay? Our moving company also offered to do the painting, but that was very expensive. Otherwise, I could imagine starting weeks in advance to tape off as much as possible.
For painting, we bought a spray machine. Wearing full protective clothing, we were able to whitewash the entire apartment (150m² (1,615 sq ft) including the basement) in no time (2 days). The landlord was really impressed when he saw it – it looked like new. But everything has to be taped off very carefully.
Mizit schrieb:
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And yes, we will have to paint and renovate. We lived here for over 5 years, had the apartment painted when we moved in, and otherwise took it as a first-time tenant. There are no fixed deadlines, and we have always had a good relationship with the landlord. Accordingly, we won’t try to find any excuse not to do anything here—that’s not our style.
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The idea that we might reach an agreement with the next tenant for them to do some painting and we provide the money or materials is also an option. But then again, the question is: What do we give them?But that’s exactly the point—either the contract states that the property must be “painted upon moving out” or “handed over broom-clean.”
Nowadays, new contracts are fair and reasonable, requiring only that the property be handed over broom-clean because 1. the new tenant can choose their own paint colors for the walls, and 2. the landlord might want to replace the flooring.
Complying with the contract has nothing to do with it not being “your style,” or “making up reasons” or trying to “talk your way out of it.” Old rental agreements had illogical rules regarding final cleaning, but now they are finally understandable.
Not painting upon moving out, of course, does not replace maintenance and care during the tenancy.
If you have done nothing about it in the 3 or 5 years and it is visible, then you will probably have to deal with it at the end.
Regards, Yvonne
tomtom79 schrieb:
Post it on myhammer. Exactly.
I posted a 100m² (1,076 sq ft) apartment for move-out renovation there, with similar conditions: everything was white and in reasonably good shape.
Within one weekend, I received over 50 offers. In the end, a German interior decorator did the job for €450 (including materials and invoice). He wasn’t even the cheapest.
Thanks to the documented labor costs, I can now even deduct it on my taxes. He worked well, not quite painter master level, but he covered everything cleanly.
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Hausbauer129 Jun 2017 22:11We once posted a listing on myhammer for an apartment of nearly 100 m² (1,076 ft²). Including materials and invoiced, it cost somewhere between 400 and 500 euros. By the way, the quality was first-class in this case. The landlord wanted to know the name of the painter.
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