ᐅ Painting 90 square meters by non-professionals – what budget would you estimate?
Created on: 21 Jun 2017 12:56
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We are considering not renovating or painting our apartment ourselves when we move out, but instead hiring two students – the university nearby means it should be easy to find someone for this kind of work quickly.
Our apartment is about 90 sqm (970 sq ft), consisting of a hallway, living room/kitchen, and two rooms. It is currently uncertain whether the bathroom ceilings will need to be painted.
There are a few drill holes in the walls that need to be repaired, but otherwise it should just be painting.
The regular textured wallpaper will be painted white again. No one has smoked here, and the walls are still in relatively good condition. The quality of the paint used when we moved in was rather mediocre. Accordingly, we do not plan to buy the most expensive materials for painting, probably something from a hardware store, plus supplies like masking film, brushes, etc. I hope to manage with about 200 euros (around $220) for painting and renovation materials.
What do you estimate would be the amount to pay two amateur workers who ideally have done this before? How many hours would they need, and is paying 8–10 euros (about $9–11) per hour realistic?
For various reasons, I want this to be legal work. So also with insurance in case someone falls from a ladder. How and where does this need to be registered?
Our apartment is about 90 sqm (970 sq ft), consisting of a hallway, living room/kitchen, and two rooms. It is currently uncertain whether the bathroom ceilings will need to be painted.
There are a few drill holes in the walls that need to be repaired, but otherwise it should just be painting.
The regular textured wallpaper will be painted white again. No one has smoked here, and the walls are still in relatively good condition. The quality of the paint used when we moved in was rather mediocre. Accordingly, we do not plan to buy the most expensive materials for painting, probably something from a hardware store, plus supplies like masking film, brushes, etc. I hope to manage with about 200 euros (around $220) for painting and renovation materials.
What do you estimate would be the amount to pay two amateur workers who ideally have done this before? How many hours would they need, and is paying 8–10 euros (about $9–11) per hour realistic?
For various reasons, I want this to be legal work. So also with insurance in case someone falls from a ladder. How and where does this need to be registered?
Nordlys schrieb:
A professional would charge 15 times 40, so 600,- plus materials for your 96 sqm (1033 sq ft) project. KarstenWell, 40€ (about $43) all-in, yes.
For comparison, here is a serious quote from a "real professional," where I feel most likely to be ripped off: 350 sqm (3767 sq ft) * 7€ (about $7.50) net plus 5 times 40€ (about $43) net for door repairs. I had to shake my head first and then laugh!
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Bieber081522 Jun 2017 15:53The real work is the taping beforehand or, if you don’t do that, the cleaning afterward. It’s best to do the taping yourself; you probably won’t find a student who will do it flawlessly for 10 euros per hour. Alternatively, you either enjoy cleaning or you pay someone to do it again.
I would do it myself (which is also how I’ve handled it in my previous apartments; the last time just some touch-ups were enough, and that went fine without any taping).
If necessary, you can also arrange an initial inspection with the landlord. If they insist on renovation, you can also ask if you can “buy your way out.” Then you have to weigh your options.
I would do it myself (which is also how I’ve handled it in my previous apartments; the last time just some touch-ups were enough, and that went fine without any taping).
If necessary, you can also arrange an initial inspection with the landlord. If they insist on renovation, you can also ask if you can “buy your way out.” Then you have to weigh your options.
Thanks for your replies.
So, we understand that doing the painting ourselves would basically be the cheapest option 🙂 Our main goal is to save time. Moving into our new house will be very tightly scheduled at the end of the month, but we want to be out by then to avoid paying another month’s rent.
We are both working full-time, have two small children, and no grandparents nearby. Things like “painting and renovating the apartment” are a significant time factor, especially when we also have several renovations to do together at the new house within a short period.
And yes, we will have to paint and renovate. We have lived here for over five years, painted the apartment ourselves, and otherwise took it as a first tenancy. There are no strict deadlines, and we have always had a good relationship with the landlord. So we are not looking for any excuse to avoid doing anything—that’s not how we operate.
We thought if we buy mid-range materials ourselves and then hire two students to do the work, it might be financially manageable...
It’s also an option to agree with the next tenant that they do the painting and we provide money or materials. But then the question arises again: What exactly do we give them?
So, we understand that doing the painting ourselves would basically be the cheapest option 🙂 Our main goal is to save time. Moving into our new house will be very tightly scheduled at the end of the month, but we want to be out by then to avoid paying another month’s rent.
We are both working full-time, have two small children, and no grandparents nearby. Things like “painting and renovating the apartment” are a significant time factor, especially when we also have several renovations to do together at the new house within a short period.
And yes, we will have to paint and renovate. We have lived here for over five years, painted the apartment ourselves, and otherwise took it as a first tenancy. There are no strict deadlines, and we have always had a good relationship with the landlord. So we are not looking for any excuse to avoid doing anything—that’s not how we operate.
We thought if we buy mid-range materials ourselves and then hire two students to do the work, it might be financially manageable...
It’s also an option to agree with the next tenant that they do the painting and we provide money or materials. But then the question arises again: What exactly do we give them?
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