ᐅ Painting 90 square meters by non-professionals – what budget would you estimate?
Created on: 21 Jun 2017 12:56
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Mizit
We are considering not renovating or painting our apartment ourselves when we move out, but instead hiring two students – the university nearby means it should be easy to find someone for this kind of work quickly.
Our apartment is about 90 sqm (970 sq ft), consisting of a hallway, living room/kitchen, and two rooms. It is currently uncertain whether the bathroom ceilings will need to be painted.
There are a few drill holes in the walls that need to be repaired, but otherwise it should just be painting.
The regular textured wallpaper will be painted white again. No one has smoked here, and the walls are still in relatively good condition. The quality of the paint used when we moved in was rather mediocre. Accordingly, we do not plan to buy the most expensive materials for painting, probably something from a hardware store, plus supplies like masking film, brushes, etc. I hope to manage with about 200 euros (around $220) for painting and renovation materials.
What do you estimate would be the amount to pay two amateur workers who ideally have done this before? How many hours would they need, and is paying 8–10 euros (about $9–11) per hour realistic?
For various reasons, I want this to be legal work. So also with insurance in case someone falls from a ladder. How and where does this need to be registered?
Our apartment is about 90 sqm (970 sq ft), consisting of a hallway, living room/kitchen, and two rooms. It is currently uncertain whether the bathroom ceilings will need to be painted.
There are a few drill holes in the walls that need to be repaired, but otherwise it should just be painting.
The regular textured wallpaper will be painted white again. No one has smoked here, and the walls are still in relatively good condition. The quality of the paint used when we moved in was rather mediocre. Accordingly, we do not plan to buy the most expensive materials for painting, probably something from a hardware store, plus supplies like masking film, brushes, etc. I hope to manage with about 200 euros (around $220) for painting and renovation materials.
What do you estimate would be the amount to pay two amateur workers who ideally have done this before? How many hours would they need, and is paying 8–10 euros (about $9–11) per hour realistic?
For various reasons, I want this to be legal work. So also with insurance in case someone falls from a ladder. How and where does this need to be registered?
ypg schrieb:
Not repainting when moving out obviously does not replace maintenance and care during the rental period.
If nothing has been done during the 3 or 5 years and it shows, you will have to deal with it in the end.
Regards, YvonneWell, what do you consider maintenance and care in a rental apartment where you have lived for five years with two small children?
We have not made any structural changes here that would need to be reversed now. We are not hoarders; we have treated everything with care, no one smokes here, we painted one wall in the children’s room a strong pink, but otherwise...
apokolok schrieb:
Exactly.
I posted a job for renovating a 100m² (1,076 sq ft) apartment I was moving out of, with similar conditions – everything was white and in reasonably good shape.
I received over 50 offers within one weekend, and in the end, a German interior decorator did the job for 450€ including materials and invoice. He wasn’t even the cheapest.
Thanks to the declared labor costs, I can now deduct it from my taxes. He worked properly, not quite at the level of a master painter, but he covered everything neatly.That sounds great! For just under 450€ including materials and invoice, I’d gladly save the time, effort, and stress. We have now given notice on our apartment and want to wait to see if we might be able to agree on painting with a successor tenant. If we ask what kind of financial compensation they want to do the renovation themselves, and they don’t ask for an excessive amount, that would be a good option for us as well.
Regarding those spray guns: we were at the hardware store yesterday and saw an interior spray gun suitable for indoor use, costing just under 250€. I think it could actually be fun to use and probably faster than rolling and brushing, but if we have to spend 250€ upfront, and might find someone to paint the whole place for 400€, it probably isn’t a good cost-benefit investment...
Mizit schrieb:
Well, what do you understand by maintenance and upkeep in a rental apartment where you have lived for five years with two small children?
We haven’t made any structural changes here that would need to be reversed now. We’re not hoarders; we have treated everything with care, no one smokes here, and we painted one wall in the children’s room a deep pink, but otherwise...In that case, I wouldn’t do anything if nothing is visible.
But somehow you seem to be defending yourself, as if people here are saying your place wasn’t well maintained – nobody is saying that!
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Peanuts7412 Jul 2017 15:04Just the taping alone can take several hours. I would not charge an hourly rate but rather a fixed total price.