ᐅ Painting 90 square meters by non-professionals – what budget would you estimate?

Created on: 21 Jun 2017 12:56
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Mizit
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Mizit
21 Jun 2017 12:56
We are considering not renovating or painting our apartment ourselves when we move out, but instead hiring two students – the university nearby means it should be easy to find someone for this kind of work quickly.

Our apartment is about 90 sqm (970 sq ft), consisting of a hallway, living room/kitchen, and two rooms. It is currently uncertain whether the bathroom ceilings will need to be painted.

There are a few drill holes in the walls that need to be repaired, but otherwise it should just be painting.

The regular textured wallpaper will be painted white again. No one has smoked here, and the walls are still in relatively good condition. The quality of the paint used when we moved in was rather mediocre. Accordingly, we do not plan to buy the most expensive materials for painting, probably something from a hardware store, plus supplies like masking film, brushes, etc. I hope to manage with about 200 euros (around $220) for painting and renovation materials.

What do you estimate would be the amount to pay two amateur workers who ideally have done this before? How many hours would they need, and is paying 8–10 euros (about $9–11) per hour realistic?

For various reasons, I want this to be legal work. So also with insurance in case someone falls from a ladder. How and where does this need to be registered?
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Knallkörper
21 Jun 2017 19:28
Estimate: 2 people, 2 days of 8 hours each at 15 euros. That makes 480 euros. They might also need three days if you don’t agree on a flat rate. For 10 euros per hour, you can hardly get an unofficial babysitter. A cleaning person usually costs well over 20 euros.
tomtom7921 Jun 2017 20:19
A cleaner charging over 20 euros (about $22) ^^ I feel sorry for the skilled workers who earn significantly less.
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Alex85
21 Jun 2017 20:22
20 euros per hour for painting work, that’s clear.

A student should be fine for around 10 euros per hour. Two days for 90 square meters (970 square feet) with two people is nonsense; it can be done in one day. It doesn’t have to be perfect or painted multiple times, then it goes quickly. Registering as a professional is noble, but then you won’t find anyone. Nobody wants to do that paperwork. For a normal apartment, you don’t need a ladder, just a step stool or a telescopic pole. You should also consider whether everything really needs to be painted. The usual renovation deadlines are no longer valid and were always quite long anyway.
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ypg
21 Jun 2017 20:39
Alex85 schrieb:
20 euros per hour for labor, sure.

A student should be fine for around 10 euros. Two days for 90 square meters (970 square feet) with two people is nonsense; it can be done in one day. It doesn’t need to be perfect or painted multiple times, then it goes quickly. Registering officially is ideal, but then you won’t find anyone. No one wants the hassle. Work during the day and party in the evening, no paperwork. For a normal apartment, you don’t even need a ladder, just a step stool or a telescopic pole. You should also consider whether everything really needs painting. The common renovation deadlines are no longer valid anyway and were always set quite long-term.

If it weren’t for Alex85’s name, I would think @Nordlys wrote this 😀
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Alex85
21 Jun 2017 20:43
As long as we’re not talking about gas and heat pumps, we can actually reach a consensus 😉

But seriously, for €80 (about $86) for a one-day, one-time assistant job, you might as well smear the documents in your hair. That will drastically reduce the number of candidates. Nobody wants to deal with that.