Hello everyone,
At the end of March, we had initial discussions with several providers. However, we have only received an offer (and further appointments) from one provider so far. At the first contact, all of them immediately mentioned that it would take some time because demand is currently very high.
Therefore, my question is: On average, how long did you have to wait before you could develop a floor plan and a project with a provider, which then resulted in a first offer? I am slowly becoming impatient, as we would like to start building next spring.
At the end of March, we had initial discussions with several providers. However, we have only received an offer (and further appointments) from one provider so far. At the first contact, all of them immediately mentioned that it would take some time because demand is currently very high.
Therefore, my question is: On average, how long did you have to wait before you could develop a floor plan and a project with a provider, which then resulted in a first offer? I am slowly becoming impatient, as we would like to start building next spring.
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hampshire13 May 2021 08:59As agreed, the architect showed us the first draft approximately 6 weeks after the last preliminary meeting.
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Naturliebhaber13 May 2021 09:27ypg schrieb:
In the end, you could say that everyone else is out, and the one who’s expressed interest so far makes it to the shortlist. Well, that would be a bit nonsensical if I want to get several offers and then just choose the one who’s ready first.
Our “favorite from the start” already has our documents. I checked by phone yesterday; they have now handed them over to an architect, and we are asked to be patient for another 3 weeks. I hope we’ll hear something after that. We also had the best conversation with them compared to the others.
@11ant I can fill out the questionnaire during the day. Would it be alright to do it here in the thread?
@Baugrübchen
Separately awarding contracts is not an option for us, as we simply don’t have the time or experience for that. And personally, I especially lack the decisiveness.
Naturliebhaber schrieb:
Well, that would be kind of pointless if I want to get various quotes and then just choose the one who is ready first.Not the one who is ready FIRST. But the one who actually responds.When subcontracting the work individually, you will currently have to wait for each trade... that wouldn’t be a viable option unless you have a lot of time. It’s not without reason that a build with an architect takes longer than with a general contractor.
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Naturliebhaber13 May 2021 09:56We contacted everyone by email, and all of them responded promptly. So it wasn’t a case of having to beg for an initial appointment.
We started contacting four well-known and recommended general contractors (GCs) in January 2020.
All of them responded relatively quickly and we had discussions, but none were willing to go into much detail since no contract was signed yet.
All of them sent a house proposal including an offer after about 2-4 weeks.
Only one GC, however, visited our site beforehand to evaluate the conditions of our plot and estimated the additional costs for earthworks. They also provided us with a lot of information and assistance before we had signed anything.
In the meantime, I wanted to try working with an architect, because our plot is quite small and sloped.
I could not find an architect with available capacity.
Ultimately, we signed with our preferred GC in November 2020. When changes are requested, it sometimes takes 2-3 weeks to receive updates, but we had been informed in advance that their order books were currently full and that minor delays could occur. It is frustrating, but as long as you are not under pressure, it is acceptable. The delays caused by waiting for the updates to our building documents were handled by the building authority. We received the building permit within 9 working days.
If you have a “simple” plot, I would focus on whoever gives you the most secure feeling and trust. I believe both a GC and an architect can make you happy in that case. However, if you have a plot with challenges, I would definitely try to hire an architect!
All of them responded relatively quickly and we had discussions, but none were willing to go into much detail since no contract was signed yet.
All of them sent a house proposal including an offer after about 2-4 weeks.
Only one GC, however, visited our site beforehand to evaluate the conditions of our plot and estimated the additional costs for earthworks. They also provided us with a lot of information and assistance before we had signed anything.
In the meantime, I wanted to try working with an architect, because our plot is quite small and sloped.
I could not find an architect with available capacity.
Ultimately, we signed with our preferred GC in November 2020. When changes are requested, it sometimes takes 2-3 weeks to receive updates, but we had been informed in advance that their order books were currently full and that minor delays could occur. It is frustrating, but as long as you are not under pressure, it is acceptable. The delays caused by waiting for the updates to our building documents were handled by the building authority. We received the building permit within 9 working days.
If you have a “simple” plot, I would focus on whoever gives you the most secure feeling and trust. I believe both a GC and an architect can make you happy in that case. However, if you have a plot with challenges, I would definitely try to hire an architect!
Baugrübchen schrieb:
You can agree on the number of project phases with him. I generally recommend, as the kebab shop owner says, to go "all in," meaning project phases 1 through 8; phase 9 is like "extra onions" and, in my opinion, a bit too much for a single-family home. Many home builders think it's smart to make a cutoff after phase 4—but I don’t agree: by phase 2, you already know if you've found the right person. Therefore, I suggest including an option to withdraw after phase 2, but otherwise to contract the architect for phases 1 through 8.
Naturliebhaber schrieb:
Managing each contract separately is not an option for us; we simply lack the time and experience for that. With an architect, I always recommend a tendering process. This is not the same as managing contracts individually, but in my opinion, it still makes the most sense to do it in separate packages, while still allowing bids as a general contractor (GC). With a client-appointed and project-managing architect, GCs are just as recommendable as contractors and carry no additional risk.
Naturliebhaber schrieb:
I can work on the questionnaire during the day. Is this thread the right place for that? To quote Günter Schabowski loosely: to the best of my knowledge, yes ;-)
Yaso2.0 schrieb:
If you have a plot with any obstacles, I would definitely try to hire an architect! “Obstacle” might be too strong a word, but the indecisiveness of the building authority regarding the building line or maybe just the boundary and whether to build directly against it or only barely touch it with the smallest margin is not exactly straightforward.
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