Hello,
my wife and I are currently considering a used single-family house. It was built in 2004.
However, it has an electric storage block heater installed. Apparently, there is also a wood stove.
I have already searched online but couldn’t find any recent information about electric storage block heaters. Does anyone here have experience with them? I would prefer not to have to install a new heating system. Since the house was built in 2004, it’s still relatively new. So I can’t really imagine that outdated technology would have been installed there.
Does anyone have knowledge about electric storage heaters? They must be quite expensive to run, right?
my wife and I are currently considering a used single-family house. It was built in 2004.
However, it has an electric storage block heater installed. Apparently, there is also a wood stove.
I have already searched online but couldn’t find any recent information about electric storage block heaters. Does anyone here have experience with them? I would prefer not to have to install a new heating system. Since the house was built in 2004, it’s still relatively new. So I can’t really imagine that outdated technology would have been installed there.
Does anyone have knowledge about electric storage heaters? They must be quite expensive to run, right?
Hello,
Electric direct heating is the most expensive form imaginable. In a passive house, this is less critical, but in a building from 2004 with correspondingly high energy demand, it is a disaster.
Best regards
SiRa schrieb:That will probably be unavoidable unless you want to accept very high running costs in the future.
...Just don’t want to have to install a new heating system later.
Electric direct heating is the most expensive form imaginable. In a passive house, this is less critical, but in a building from 2004 with correspondingly high energy demand, it is a disaster.
Best regards
B
Bauexperte23 Mar 2011 19:03Hello €uro,
With all due respect, this statement is typical of you again. But I forgot, you never respond, even remotely, without an appropriate assignment, as has been recently evident here.
With a heat pump tariff – you did not ask about the basic values nor about the additional parameters – it certainly does not have to be a money pit (your favorite word)!
Best regards
€uro schrieb:
in a building constructed in 2004 with correspondingly high demand, a disaster.
With all due respect, this statement is typical of you again. But I forgot, you never respond, even remotely, without an appropriate assignment, as has been recently evident here.
With a heat pump tariff – you did not ask about the basic values nor about the additional parameters – it certainly does not have to be a money pit (your favorite word)!
Best regards
Hello Bauexperte,
Where exactly do you think the heat pump is located here?
You probably mean a night electricity special tariff (NT). Some things can be estimated based on experience. The "wood stove" is certainly placed in a corner for a reason. Also, I would recommend comparing the annual price increases between the "special tariffs" and the "standard supply."
Furthermore, I assume that SiRa is wise enough to request an energy performance certificate demand rating.
Best regards
Bauexperte schrieb:
...With a heat pump tariff....
Where exactly do you think the heat pump is located here?
You probably mean a night electricity special tariff (NT). Some things can be estimated based on experience. The "wood stove" is certainly placed in a corner for a reason. Also, I would recommend comparing the annual price increases between the "special tariffs" and the "standard supply."
Furthermore, I assume that SiRa is wise enough to request an energy performance certificate demand rating.
Best regards
B
Bauexperte24 Mar 2011 10:54@ SiRa
"Electric storage heating actually results in the lowest annual heating costs, approximately 12 euros per square meter of heated living space" Source: tga-Praxis
There are countless suppliers and types of electric storage heaters, so I recommend discussing the installed system with a professional. Only then will you receive reliable information that can support your purchasing decision. It is not responsible to make general statements without knowing the specific parameters.
@ €uro
Unfortunately, this is a widespread misconception.
No, I generally mean exactly what I write; a high tariff/low tariff (HT/NT) rate is very costly. Radiation heating running on a heat pump tariff – a direct heater, for example made of marble – is not only economical to operate, visually attractive, and freely placeable like a picture on the wall, but also provides very healthy warmth.
Best regards
SiRa schrieb:
Does anyone have experience with electric storage heaters? I guess they must be quite expensive to operate, right?
"Electric storage heating actually results in the lowest annual heating costs, approximately 12 euros per square meter of heated living space" Source: tga-Praxis
There are countless suppliers and types of electric storage heaters, so I recommend discussing the installed system with a professional. Only then will you receive reliable information that can support your purchasing decision. It is not responsible to make general statements without knowing the specific parameters.
@ €uro
€uro schrieb:
Electric direct heating is the most expensive form you can imagine
Unfortunately, this is a widespread misconception.
€uro schrieb:
Where might the heat pump be here? You probably mean a night electricity special tariff (NT).
No, I generally mean exactly what I write; a high tariff/low tariff (HT/NT) rate is very costly. Radiation heating running on a heat pump tariff – a direct heater, for example made of marble – is not only economical to operate, visually attractive, and freely placeable like a picture on the wall, but also provides very healthy warmth.
Best regards
Bauexperte schrieb:
... No, I usually mean what I write; a peak/load heating tariff is deadly for the budget. What nonsense! Bauexperte schrieb:
A radiant heating system running on the heat pump tariff – direct heating, for example, made of marble – is not only economical to operate,… Where exactly is the heat pump so that a heat pump tariff could be used? Are you sure that operating a radiant heating system under a heat pump tariff is allowed? Is it actually permitted? What you’re saying is quite risky!
I plan heat pump systems myself and include radiant heating when needed, but exclusively to cover peak demands within strictly limited periods!
For 1 kWh of thermal demand, the cost with a heat pump is €0.04/kWh (approximately 4 cents/kWh), whereas for direct electric heating it is already €0.16/kWh (approximately 16 cents/kWh), which is four times as much!
Hopefully, we don’t need to discuss the additional primary energy consumption!
Best regards.
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