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Zaba12 schrieb:

Yes, we have discussed this topic several times 🙂

I just don’t always know if it’s a matter of “not understanding,” which is understandable. Maybe it’s simply the lack of questioning why and how certain things are planned and executed.

Unfortunately, none of this helps when dealing with poor workmanship. As a client, no matter what you do, you are at the mercy of arbitrariness.

Well-made report that presents a one-sided view. A few lessons can be learned from the cases shown:

• As a client, it makes sense to visit the construction site more often. With a good tone of communication, this is completely acceptable to the tradespeople.
• Giving preference to a company that has to travel a long way for all work is a rather problematic solution.
• Defects should be reported in a timely manner and in the contractually agreed form.
• New decisions made during construction can lead to additional costs and delays.

What I keep noticing is a recurring theme of "client" versus "tradesperson" or "layperson" versus "professional." Under these conditions, a construction project should not even be started together.

When we visit the construction site, we look very closely and address uncertainties or errors. However, we also make an effort to identify things that are going well and mention these as well. You can defend yourself against many things, but not against praise...

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Yes, we've discussed this topic several times 🙂

I’m just not always sure if it’s a matter of "not understanding," which is okay. Maybe it’s just the lack of questioning why and how certain things are planned and executed.

For example: whether a vapor barrier like Katja Sprint or something similar should be placed under your floor insulation—that’s not something a layperson would know. If the builder leaves it out, how would you know it needs to be there unless you’ve really read up on every single topic?

That’s not a big deal yet, but if the wrong membrane is used on the roof, that’s a problem... and you want me to believe you read all that and understand it?

hampshire schrieb:

Well-made report that presents a one-sided view. There are a few lessons to be learned from the cases shown:

• As a client, it makes sense to visit the construction site more often. With a respectful tone, this is completely acceptable for the tradespeople.
• Preferring a company that has to travel a long distance for everything is a rather problematic solution.
• Defects should be reported in a timely manner and in the contractually agreed form.
• Changes made during construction can lead to additional costs and delays.

What I keep noticing is the recurring tension between “client” and “tradesperson” or “layperson” and “professional.” Under these conditions, a construction project should not be started together in the first place.

When we visit the site, we pay close attention and address any uncertainties or errors. However, we also try to recognize things that are going well and acknowledge them. You can resist many things, but not praise...

Yeah, it came across like that too. All the tradespeople are gangsters.

Snowy36 schrieb:

Example: whether a vapor barrier like Katja Sprint or something similar should be installed under your floor insulation — you, as a layperson, wouldn’t know that, right? If the contractor omits it, how are you supposed to know it’s necessary unless you really research every topic in depth?

That’s not a big issue yet, but if the wrong membrane is used on the roof, that is… and you want to tell me you read through everything and understand it?

You’ve picked two examples again 😎.

@Floor construction: The structure was specified by the energy consultant. The documents included the type and thickness of the insulation and screed below and above the slab, as well as waterproofing. I asked the builder and the plumber what that meant. The plumber gave me three options: membrane, Katja, and something else. That’s how I got the info. The construction coordinator told us how to install everything.

@Roof: Each trade provided detailed quotes. For the roof, I simply googled the materials I was unfamiliar with to understand their purpose.

I did this for every trade. With a general contractor or a fixed scope of work specification, of course, you can’t do that. You have to trust that everything is correct, since you don’t have that insight.

Sure, I don’t understand everything right away, and most of the time I only understood the specific items from the quotes during installation.

My situation is unusual. We built solely based on the input planning plus the engineer’s detailed plans. The architect was out of the picture once the building permit / planning permission was granted.

Well, then you shouldn’t generalize so much if your situation is that specific...

Yes, everything that happens is signed off by the client, but I seriously doubt whether the client can check all of it...
You mostly rely on the statements of your tradespeople and specialists.

So if your carpenter believes the membrane is the right one, and your construction coordinator agrees, you rely on that—and you could be wrong.
In that case, I find your statement that a turnkey project doesn’t protect you from mistakes somewhat inappropriate... because as a layperson, you simply cannot oversee everything.

You can only rely on others and hope for the best, or you can inform yourself about everything and every step, and become an expert yourself.