Hello everyone,
We are currently in the process of planning our house. We already have a clear idea of how we want it to look. We found a great house online with some modifications.
Now we visited a builder who is requesting a deposit of 4,000 EUR. The reason behind this is understandable: they put in the work, and in the worst case, we might take the drawings to another builder.
However, to me, the amount seems quite high! 4,000 EUR is easily at least half a month’s salary for a draftsman. Or am I mistaken in this?
Basically, I would like to have at least two offers to be able to compare prices.
I have contacted another builder who provided me with a first draft over the weekend without any charges.
What do you think? Deposit yes or no? And if yes, how much?
Best regards,
Antonio
We are currently in the process of planning our house. We already have a clear idea of how we want it to look. We found a great house online with some modifications.
Now we visited a builder who is requesting a deposit of 4,000 EUR. The reason behind this is understandable: they put in the work, and in the worst case, we might take the drawings to another builder.
However, to me, the amount seems quite high! 4,000 EUR is easily at least half a month’s salary for a draftsman. Or am I mistaken in this?
Basically, I would like to have at least two offers to be able to compare prices.
I have contacted another builder who provided me with a first draft over the weekend without any charges.
What do you think? Deposit yes or no? And if yes, how much?
Best regards,
Antonio
It becomes interesting once you start building and have to pay extremely high prices for all services because you are tied to one company. For example, a toilet can easily cost $1,000 instead of $100. Usually, you are not allowed to do any work yourself, and supplying your own materials is also prohibited.
I think hiring an architect would be more beneficial for you. That way, you can compare prices, negotiate, and pay a price that seems reasonable to you.
By the way, the catalog prices are generally not reliable at all, but rather bait offers. So if it says 350,000, it will more likely be 450,000 plus additional costs.
I think hiring an architect would be more beneficial for you. That way, you can compare prices, negotiate, and pay a price that seems reasonable to you.
By the way, the catalog prices are generally not reliable at all, but rather bait offers. So if it says 350,000, it will more likely be 450,000 plus additional costs.
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nordanney4 Feb 2021 14:10Tassimat schrieb:
A freelance computer scientist with a degree, who is not just a programming slave, can also charge daily rates of 1000€.Our surveyors (usually with a civil engineering or architecture degree) charge between 1,000 and 1,200€ net per day. This aligns with freelance architects.H
hampshire4 Feb 2021 21:32Antonio2908 schrieb:
However, at this amount, I find it hard to understand.
I would boldly claim that an architect who draws every day and knows everything by heart spends a maximum of 8 hours on such a project. That is already a high estimate. With an hourly rate of about 60 euros, that results in just under 500 euros for me. That is not bold, but either uninformed or disrespectful toward the work of an architect. A good firm does not want clients like that.
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hampshire4 Feb 2021 21:55icandoit schrieb:
@hampshire Were you asked? :pNo, the confusion intrigued me.Antonio2908 schrieb:
So is it normal for you to just pay 4,000 euros (€) to every general contractor? No, not for me. There seems to be a very wide range. Our first drawing along with the offer cost nothing at all. Even after we didn’t go ahead with the build, we didn’t receive any invoice afterward, and costs weren’t discussed in advance.
But yes, I understand any general contractor who charges for that. And again, yes, I would also hesitate at 4,000 euros (€).
However, if it doesn’t feel right from the start — and your feeling that you’re being taken advantage of is a clear sign — then try other general contractors instead…
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pagoni20205 Feb 2021 11:52hampshire schrieb:
No, the misunderstanding intrigued me. Tsk tsk tsk... just writing something without being personally asked by the OP... I really think that’s quite rude.
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