ᐅ Tendering and Contract Award (Project Phases 6 and 7): Architect or Construction Manager?
Created on: 9 May 2022 18:06
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_MPCAP_Dear forum members,
I am building a single-family house with an architect. From the beginning, the architect said that he would not be available for construction supervision (work phase 8) and that he knows a site manager who has worked well on previous projects. This was acceptable to me.
To my surprise, I have now learned that the architect also intends not to take on work phases 6 and 7 himself, but that the site manager should handle those as well. The reasoning is that these are purely technical tasks and the site manager can do it better anyway. It is also supposedly better for me if the site manager prepares the tenders and is familiar with them, so he knows exactly what to watch for later on the construction site.
In the end, the architect would only handle the design ("architectural office"), while everything after that would be managed by the site manager.
Questions for you: What do you think about this? Would you insist that the architect carries out work phases 6 and 7 personally? Or is he correct in arguing that these tasks are better handled by the site manager?
I am building a single-family house with an architect. From the beginning, the architect said that he would not be available for construction supervision (work phase 8) and that he knows a site manager who has worked well on previous projects. This was acceptable to me.
To my surprise, I have now learned that the architect also intends not to take on work phases 6 and 7 himself, but that the site manager should handle those as well. The reasoning is that these are purely technical tasks and the site manager can do it better anyway. It is also supposedly better for me if the site manager prepares the tenders and is familiar with them, so he knows exactly what to watch for later on the construction site.
In the end, the architect would only handle the design ("architectural office"), while everything after that would be managed by the site manager.
Questions for you: What do you think about this? Would you insist that the architect carries out work phases 6 and 7 personally? Or is he correct in arguing that these tasks are better handled by the site manager?
K
k-man20219 May 2022 18:26What does the contract say about which service phases the architect is commissioned for?
If the architect does not want to handle phase 6 and beyond – that is, if he doesn’t feel confident doing so – it doesn’t make sense to force him. In that case, you would really be better off with a construction manager. However, this does raise some doubts about his competence for service phase 5. Take a critical look at the construction manager, ask for references, and have both explain the handover process.
If the architect does not want to handle phase 6 and beyond – that is, if he doesn’t feel confident doing so – it doesn’t make sense to force him. In that case, you would really be better off with a construction manager. However, this does raise some doubts about his competence for service phase 5. Take a critical look at the construction manager, ask for references, and have both explain the handover process.
Our architects are from Austria, and the construction manager is from the local area.
In fact, some trades/contracts may be better managed by the construction manager in certain cases.
In our case, he also handles the structural engineering and building services engineering (HVAC, electrical, plumbing).
It is simply easier for the person who supervises the craftsmen on site to be involved in the awarding of contracts and the execution planning.
Whether this makes the overall fees cheaper is another matter.
The ideal situation is indeed when the architect does everything and is directly located on site.
However, many architects tend to focus more on design than on implementation.
In fact, some trades/contracts may be better managed by the construction manager in certain cases.
In our case, he also handles the structural engineering and building services engineering (HVAC, electrical, plumbing).
It is simply easier for the person who supervises the craftsmen on site to be involved in the awarding of contracts and the execution planning.
Whether this makes the overall fees cheaper is another matter.
The ideal situation is indeed when the architect does everything and is directly located on site.
However, many architects tend to focus more on design than on implementation.
Malunga schrieb:
Many architects see their role more in designing than in implementation. I see that here specifically – compare https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-efh-ca-300qm-Grundstück-780qm.41862/page-3#post-548289 – and that cannot be denied, yes.
_MPCAP_ schrieb:
Would you insist that the architect handles service phases 6 or 7 themselves? Or is he right with the argument that it is better assigned to the construction manager? k-man2021 schrieb:
However, I then have doubts about his competence for service phase 5. Service phases 6 and 7 should be done by the same person who already handled service phase 5; and as explained in "The House-Building Schedule, Module C," I would be reluctant to separate service phases 6 through 8; in fact, I am even convinced that the person taking over service phase 8 should have already been significantly involved in service phase 3.
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