ᐅ Planning/Architect, possible execution by a prefab home supplier
Created on: 28 May 2013 08:15
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moser7
Good morning!
We can now make our dream of owning a single-family house come true. It was almost impossible to find a nice plot here, but we finally succeeded.
We want to start the actual construction next spring and are currently gathering ideas. Like many others, we are facing the decision between a solid construction (e.g., T8) with individual contracts or a high-quality timber house builder offering a turnkey solution. To estimate the costs for solid construction, we basically need at least a preliminary design. There are many construction companies in our area, but hardly any offer turnkey solutions. Therefore, to really compare the offers, the same basis must be sent to all trades for solid construction and to the turnkey builders.
Now the question: An architect doesn’t plan these things for free. Do you have any experience whether providers like Sonnleitner, Adlerhaus, Gruber Naturholzhaus, i.e., turnkey builders, offer a meaningful discount if the planning is completely done by an external architect? Usually, the employees of the companies handle all planning themselves. If that is no longer the case, is this really reflected in the price? Of course, these plans still need to be processed for production.
It would be somewhat frustrating to choose a turnkey timber house builder and spend an additional 20,000 EUR on an architect that in the end wasn’t even necessary.
Context:
Single-family house, 1.5 or 2 stories
Approx. 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft)
Living and dining area
Expected construction cost including basement but excluding garden/exterior approx. 360,000 EUR (Rainwater retention required, soil replacement on building site due to peat layer)
Regards
Benjamin
We can now make our dream of owning a single-family house come true. It was almost impossible to find a nice plot here, but we finally succeeded.
We want to start the actual construction next spring and are currently gathering ideas. Like many others, we are facing the decision between a solid construction (e.g., T8) with individual contracts or a high-quality timber house builder offering a turnkey solution. To estimate the costs for solid construction, we basically need at least a preliminary design. There are many construction companies in our area, but hardly any offer turnkey solutions. Therefore, to really compare the offers, the same basis must be sent to all trades for solid construction and to the turnkey builders.
Now the question: An architect doesn’t plan these things for free. Do you have any experience whether providers like Sonnleitner, Adlerhaus, Gruber Naturholzhaus, i.e., turnkey builders, offer a meaningful discount if the planning is completely done by an external architect? Usually, the employees of the companies handle all planning themselves. If that is no longer the case, is this really reflected in the price? Of course, these plans still need to be processed for production.
It would be somewhat frustrating to choose a turnkey timber house builder and spend an additional 20,000 EUR on an architect that in the end wasn’t even necessary.
Context:
Single-family house, 1.5 or 2 stories
Approx. 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft)
Living and dining area
Expected construction cost including basement but excluding garden/exterior approx. 360,000 EUR (Rainwater retention required, soil replacement on building site due to peat layer)
Regards
Benjamin
This is new to me; until now, it has always been free, at least from the main office. From this approach, I understand that you base your decision regarding consultation efforts on the willingness of a prospective client to invest money in a planning contract.
That’s one way to put it...
My experience is that clients who seriously engage with the topic are also willing to pay for good consulting services. As a result, I certainly have somewhat fewer consultations, but not necessarily fewer clients.
Best regards
That’s one way to put it...
My experience is that clients who seriously engage with the topic are also willing to pay for good consulting services. As a result, I certainly have somewhat fewer consultations, but not necessarily fewer clients.
Best regards
VDG schrieb:
That is new to me; until now, it has always been free, at least from the main office. From this approach, I understand that you base your decision regarding consultation effort on the willingness of a potential client to invest money in a planning contract.
Now the question is, an architect does not plan these things without reason.
First of all: Is this topic still relevant or has a decision already been made?
If it is still open – with prefabricated house manufacturers, usually only the preliminary design and planning phases 1-4 are carried out by an independent architect, while the manufacturers often work together with "their" architectural firms. Factory planning, detailed design, and production planning are done in-house, tailored to the construction method, wall assemblies, etc. of the manufacturer.
For a high-quality prefabricated house, the final total costs will certainly not be lower than for a single-family home planned by an architect with factory planning, tendering, individual contracting, and construction management.
The costs are just distributed differently.
I would rather focus on the question of which architect can best realize the desired house, how the house should look, and so on.
First of all: Is this topic still relevant or has a decision already been made?
If it is still open – with prefabricated house manufacturers, usually only the preliminary design and planning phases 1-4 are carried out by an independent architect, while the manufacturers often work together with "their" architectural firms. Factory planning, detailed design, and production planning are done in-house, tailored to the construction method, wall assemblies, etc. of the manufacturer.
For a high-quality prefabricated house, the final total costs will certainly not be lower than for a single-family home planned by an architect with factory planning, tendering, individual contracting, and construction management.
The costs are just distributed differently.
I would rather focus on the question of which architect can best realize the desired house, how the house should look, and so on.
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