Hello everyone,
I am currently in discussions with the first heating installers. The centerpiece will be a pellet heating system (15 kW) — either ETA or KWB. Since I’ve only heard good things about solar combination systems, I want to implement this as well. I expect to almost completely save on pellet consumption during the summer, as solar should be sufficient for domestic hot water preparation.
After talking with the heating installer, I am now a bit uncertain. He mentioned problems with such a combination because in summer, too much heat is generated (since very little water from the buffer tank is used), and the glycol in the solar panels can partially evaporate due to overheating. Instead, he would prefer to use photovoltaic panels and support the heating with an electric heating element. This issue is new to me, and I couldn’t find much information about it online either.
What do you think? Maybe one of you has experience with either of these heating technologies.
Best regards,
XxTankerxX
I am currently in discussions with the first heating installers. The centerpiece will be a pellet heating system (15 kW) — either ETA or KWB. Since I’ve only heard good things about solar combination systems, I want to implement this as well. I expect to almost completely save on pellet consumption during the summer, as solar should be sufficient for domestic hot water preparation.
After talking with the heating installer, I am now a bit uncertain. He mentioned problems with such a combination because in summer, too much heat is generated (since very little water from the buffer tank is used), and the glycol in the solar panels can partially evaporate due to overheating. Instead, he would prefer to use photovoltaic panels and support the heating with an electric heating element. This issue is new to me, and I couldn’t find much information about it online either.
What do you think? Maybe one of you has experience with either of these heating technologies.
Best regards,
XxTankerxX
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XxTankerxX16 Apr 2021 11:02OWLer schrieb:
What is this actually about? Renovation, refurbishment, or new construction?
In the case of new construction, I can’t quite understand the focus on the pellet heating system. It’s a new construction. I find it an efficient way to heat—independent of outside temperatures.
And ecological as well. The basement and space are available.
”Harvesting and burning forest biomass moves carbon out of forests and into the atmosphere right at the time when it is most important to reduce emissions.”Forests capture CO2. When used for building timber houses or furniture, the CO2 remains stored for a long time. Burning a 100-year-old tree releases that stored carbon within a single heating season. In addition, the logistics of pellet supply are often questionable.
Personally, I disagree with the claim that pellet heating is ecological, as Kachelmann also suggests. This has already caused some friction for me in this forum.
Just a thought to consider alternatives. Properly designed and configured (!), a heat pump combined with photovoltaic panels in new builds should be significantly more sustainable without particulate pollution for the neighborhood and without subsidy bureaucracy. What is your natural heating strategy when outside temperatures are a factor?
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nordanney16 Apr 2021 11:17XxTankerxX schrieb:
A basement and space are available.No – you still have to build that space separately. You could save it (and money) if you heat ecologically with a heat pump (using green electricity). And whether burning wood is ecological, I’ll leave open... (fine dust, CO2). I prefer to leave the trees standing in the forest and enjoy them there. But as often, it’s a matter of belief.
XxTankerxX schrieb:
regardless of the outside temperatures.And that’s exactly the inefficient part. A heat pump adjusts much better to the outside temperatures (modulating).X
XxTankerxX16 Apr 2021 12:12Well, I buy the pellets from the neighboring town. They are freshly pressed there, and most of the wood comes from trees that were going to be removed anyway. Especially concerning the issue of beetle-damaged wood, which we are likely to have for the next several decades with the current tree species and forest structures, my view is that only wood that has already been felled is being used here. This is also why some people (at least those with enough space) in my area build new homes using pellet or wood chip heating systems.
Regarding fine dust, I agree with you – it is probably impossible to completely avoid emissions during combustion. However, with the current technology from leading manufacturers, fine dust emissions are reportedly many times lower than with pure wood heating systems.
But clearly, this is a matter of personal philosophy. Everyone has their own opinion.
And about space: Sure, the 9m² (97 ft²) room for the pellets could be used differently, but having that one room doesn’t bother me.
Regarding fine dust, I agree with you – it is probably impossible to completely avoid emissions during combustion. However, with the current technology from leading manufacturers, fine dust emissions are reportedly many times lower than with pure wood heating systems.
But clearly, this is a matter of personal philosophy. Everyone has their own opinion.
And about space: Sure, the 9m² (97 ft²) room for the pellets could be used differently, but having that one room doesn’t bother me.
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hampshire16 Apr 2021 12:45When it comes to pellets, wood chips, or firewood, a solid environmental balance can be achieved through sustainable forestry—after all, the resource is allowed to regrow. Your purchasing decisions directly influence the climate-friendliness of the product you buy. Fossil energy, on the other hand, does not regenerate; it is simply extracted from long-term storage without compensation. With electric energy, you can buy “green” power and financially support a green producer, but often you still receive your energy from a nearby polluting source (for example, coal in the western Rhineland). This is usually managed through balancing areas. During the heating season, using sustainable self-generated energy is still quite expensive—after all, not many people have a wind turbine or an electrolyzer with hydrogen storage…
There are many approaches that move in the right direction, and they don’t need to be pitted against each other. Pellets are just as valid an option as heat pumps.
Some people view self-consumption purely from an economic perspective. Others consider additional factors such as independence and climate contribution, or perhaps they enjoy interacting with the technology. There are many good reasons not to choose the most economical solution. At least in my case, I have never prioritized strict economic efficiency in important life decisions and it has worked well for me. By the way, the same goes for the less important decisions.
There are many approaches that move in the right direction, and they don’t need to be pitted against each other. Pellets are just as valid an option as heat pumps.
Some people view self-consumption purely from an economic perspective. Others consider additional factors such as independence and climate contribution, or perhaps they enjoy interacting with the technology. There are many good reasons not to choose the most economical solution. At least in my case, I have never prioritized strict economic efficiency in important life decisions and it has worked well for me. By the way, the same goes for the less important decisions.
For a pellet heating system, the homeowner should ideally live in a neighboring town. I have gained a few years of professional experience with these systems; they are still quite prone to malfunctions, and spare parts are really expensive. If you choose one, be sure to get a full service contract (which usually isn’t cheap).
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