ᐅ New single-family house, 190 sqm (aiming for fewer square meters!)
Created on: 15 Mar 2019 15:40
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Lucrezia
Let’s give it a try 😉
We have finally decided on a local supplier who builds MHM walls (solid wood with wood wool insulation). It’s more expensive than a timber frame construction, but the local sourcing and construction method ultimately convinced us.
The floor plans were originally created by an architect, but we have gradually adapted them.
Of course, we will have “official” floor plans drawn up by the architect later. Before that, I’d like to exchange ideas with you and gather good suggestions 🙂
Hard facts:
We already live on the property in an older semi-detached house, which we will then rent out.
Plot size 470 sqm (total 1404 sqm, but part is already occupied by our old house, the double garage, and parking spaces).
The new house will have an “L-shape” to make optimal use of the free part of the property. The preliminary building enquiry with this plan was successful. The facade will be white! (or orange if approved).
The terrain is flat (needs about 60 cm (2 feet) of fill) – part of the topsoil will be reused, and whatever is missing will hopefully be “imported” from neighbors who are also building.
2 stories
Gable roof, between 25° and 28°
Style rather traditional
Orientation southwest
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type rather traditional, gable roof (requirements from local building authority/planning department)
No basement
Number of people, ages: she 45, he 50, 2 medium-sized dogs, children aged 1.5 and 2.5 years
Space needed on ground floor and upper floor – about 120 sqm (1300 sq ft) on the ground floor (due to practice), around 50 sqm (540 sq ft) upstairs would be enough
Practice with 2 rooms on the ground floor: 1 room purely as a practice, 1 larger room for courses/seminars as well. Soundproof wall between practice and living space. In 20 years or later, when we retire, the practice should become a granny flat (hence connections for kitchen + shower).
Guest sleepers per year – 5-6
Open or closed architecture – rather closed
Conservative or modern construction – doesn’t matter, main thing is practical
Open kitchen with island – more likely yes, but not mandatory
Number of dining seats – 3 to 6
Fireplace – only a stove
Music/stereo wall – unclear, possibly in the future?
Balcony, roof terrace – 1 balcony upstairs, 8.5 sqm (90 sq ft)
Garage, carport – no, already exists on the other part of the property
Utility garden, greenhouse – no, already present in the other garden area (maybe expand?)
House design
Originally planned by the architect, now “copied” and modified by me
What do you like in particular? Why? Light! Relatively little “dead space” (entrance, hallway...). I want it bright, and all square meters used rationally and sensibly.
What don’t you like? Why? Practice WC without a window, but apparently it can’t be done differently. Probably still too little storage space because no basement (we have storage in and on the garage, but since we have several hobbies, I’m afraid it will be tight).
Especially upstairs I would like fewer square meters overall, and less corridor space...
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 430K
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 510K
Preferred heating technology: heat pump without ventilation system (only in WC/bathroom), underfloor heating.
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions would it be?
- You could give up: parts of the entrance/hallway, living space upstairs
- You could not give up: practice, disabled-accessible practice WC. However, everything could be a bit smaller (overall house size, especially upstairs). A lower knee wall upstairs (currently 144 cm (4 ft 9 in)) is not feasible because on the south side, we would lose too much light.
Why is the design like this now? For example: Practice area
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Do you see ways to avoid dead space? Reduce costs?
We have treated the upper floor somewhat as an afterthought, since we only need 1 bedroom, 1 guest room, 1 sauna, and not necessarily an extra office/dog room.
The layout is still open. There is definitely room for improvement and lots of opportunity for constructive ideas 🙂
*Note: no window on the south side is possible in the guest room, because the roof gable of the ground floor is there.



We have finally decided on a local supplier who builds MHM walls (solid wood with wood wool insulation). It’s more expensive than a timber frame construction, but the local sourcing and construction method ultimately convinced us.
The floor plans were originally created by an architect, but we have gradually adapted them.
Of course, we will have “official” floor plans drawn up by the architect later. Before that, I’d like to exchange ideas with you and gather good suggestions 🙂
Hard facts:
We already live on the property in an older semi-detached house, which we will then rent out.
Plot size 470 sqm (total 1404 sqm, but part is already occupied by our old house, the double garage, and parking spaces).
The new house will have an “L-shape” to make optimal use of the free part of the property. The preliminary building enquiry with this plan was successful. The facade will be white! (or orange if approved).
The terrain is flat (needs about 60 cm (2 feet) of fill) – part of the topsoil will be reused, and whatever is missing will hopefully be “imported” from neighbors who are also building.
2 stories
Gable roof, between 25° and 28°
Style rather traditional
Orientation southwest
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type rather traditional, gable roof (requirements from local building authority/planning department)
No basement
Number of people, ages: she 45, he 50, 2 medium-sized dogs, children aged 1.5 and 2.5 years
Space needed on ground floor and upper floor – about 120 sqm (1300 sq ft) on the ground floor (due to practice), around 50 sqm (540 sq ft) upstairs would be enough
Practice with 2 rooms on the ground floor: 1 room purely as a practice, 1 larger room for courses/seminars as well. Soundproof wall between practice and living space. In 20 years or later, when we retire, the practice should become a granny flat (hence connections for kitchen + shower).
Guest sleepers per year – 5-6
Open or closed architecture – rather closed
Conservative or modern construction – doesn’t matter, main thing is practical
Open kitchen with island – more likely yes, but not mandatory
Number of dining seats – 3 to 6
Fireplace – only a stove
Music/stereo wall – unclear, possibly in the future?
Balcony, roof terrace – 1 balcony upstairs, 8.5 sqm (90 sq ft)
Garage, carport – no, already exists on the other part of the property
Utility garden, greenhouse – no, already present in the other garden area (maybe expand?)
House design
Originally planned by the architect, now “copied” and modified by me
What do you like in particular? Why? Light! Relatively little “dead space” (entrance, hallway...). I want it bright, and all square meters used rationally and sensibly.
What don’t you like? Why? Practice WC without a window, but apparently it can’t be done differently. Probably still too little storage space because no basement (we have storage in and on the garage, but since we have several hobbies, I’m afraid it will be tight).
Especially upstairs I would like fewer square meters overall, and less corridor space...
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 430K
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 510K
Preferred heating technology: heat pump without ventilation system (only in WC/bathroom), underfloor heating.
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions would it be?
- You could give up: parts of the entrance/hallway, living space upstairs
- You could not give up: practice, disabled-accessible practice WC. However, everything could be a bit smaller (overall house size, especially upstairs). A lower knee wall upstairs (currently 144 cm (4 ft 9 in)) is not feasible because on the south side, we would lose too much light.
Why is the design like this now? For example: Practice area
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Do you see ways to avoid dead space? Reduce costs?
We have treated the upper floor somewhat as an afterthought, since we only need 1 bedroom, 1 guest room, 1 sauna, and not necessarily an extra office/dog room.
The layout is still open. There is definitely room for improvement and lots of opportunity for constructive ideas 🙂
*Note: no window on the south side is possible in the guest room, because the roof gable of the ground floor is there.
11ant schrieb:
Regionally, I would probably consider towing instead.
/QUOTE] Hmm.. What do you mean by that?
Practice layout: One dedicated therapy room + one therapy room that is also used as a lecture and exercise room
Lucrezia schrieb:
Hmm.. What do you mean by that? It seems more typical of Bavarian style to extend the roof over the practice extension rather than to build a return there.
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hampshire17 Mar 2019 09:28I understand that ecological building methods are important to you and that you have a clear idea of how you want to live, guided by a certain lifestyle. I see similarities between your approach and ours and our project.
We visited all kinds of suppliers, looked at log homes, and spoke with architects. One architect really listened well, and we felt understood. We gave him a collection of images and examples, each with a comment about what we liked. We knew that not all these elements could fit into one house. Then we had a design created. It required a lot of explanation, but we understood it and it felt right. With a few adjustments, it is now being built by local companies.
Try finding an architect this way.
Interestingly, our house would approximately meet your requirements, including a practice space. However, the site conditions are different.
More details available upon request via private message.
We visited all kinds of suppliers, looked at log homes, and spoke with architects. One architect really listened well, and we felt understood. We gave him a collection of images and examples, each with a comment about what we liked. We knew that not all these elements could fit into one house. Then we had a design created. It required a lot of explanation, but we understood it and it felt right. With a few adjustments, it is now being built by local companies.
Try finding an architect this way.
Interestingly, our house would approximately meet your requirements, including a practice space. However, the site conditions are different.
More details available upon request via private message.
@hampshire Would you be willing to share more details via private message? I’m not allowed to send the first private message yet. Or could you just share the link or title of your floor plan thread?
We will actually have the new architect design our house for us. However, the more ideas and clear concepts we bring in beforehand, as you probably did, the more efficient the process can be.
Therefore, I appreciate any constructive thoughts.
We will actually have the new architect design our house for us. However, the more ideas and clear concepts we bring in beforehand, as you probably did, the more efficient the process can be.
Therefore, I appreciate any constructive thoughts.
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