Hello everyone,
I have a draft of our potential floor plan here.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 460 sqm (4950 sq ft)
Slope => no
Building window, building line, and boundary => see attachment
Roof style => gable roof
Maximum heights / limits => ridge height 5.5 m (18 ft)
Client Requirements
Room
Area (m²)
Living and dining area
45
Bedroom
16
Kitchen
12
Office
12
Children’s room 1 on upper floor
14
Children’s room 2 on upper floor
14
Bathroom with bathtub and shower on upper floor
12
Accessible guest toilet with shower on ground floor
5
Storage room on ground floor
min. 3
Basement / laundry room
20
Workshop corner in basement
6
Additionally:
Double garage
6 x 9 m (20 x 30 ft)
Wish list:
House Design
Who designed it:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? => The connected living and dining area. Priority is given to the living room, which ideally should be 5 x 5 m (16 x 16 ft) to have enough space for a 5.1 sound system.
What do you not like? => The large hallway, which in my opinion takes up too much space. If you put a half-landing staircase where the guest bathroom is, you get huge children’s rooms upstairs. Somehow I’m stuck on this and can’t think of anything better.
Personal price limit for the house, including features: 500,000 euros
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions can you do without: Some garage length.
What can you not give up: Large living room, large open kitchen. Lots of light in the house.
Why does the design look the way it does?
Terrace orientation southwest, building window
I have a draft of our potential floor plan here.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 460 sqm (4950 sq ft)
Slope => no
Building window, building line, and boundary => see attachment
Roof style => gable roof
Maximum heights / limits => ridge height 5.5 m (18 ft)
Client Requirements
Room
Area (m²)
Living and dining area
45
Bedroom
16
Kitchen
12
Office
12
Children’s room 1 on upper floor
14
Children’s room 2 on upper floor
14
Bathroom with bathtub and shower on upper floor
12
Accessible guest toilet with shower on ground floor
5
Storage room on ground floor
min. 3
Basement / laundry room
20
Workshop corner in basement
6
Additionally:
Double garage
6 x 9 m (20 x 30 ft)
Wish list:
- Room sizes as shown in the table
- No gallery or “dead” corners
- No flat roof overhangs, please
- No flat roof => gable roof only
- No additional balconies
- Open-plan living and dining area with large open kitchen
- One living room in basement as party and sports room
- Direct access from garage to the house, possibly via storage room or covered outdoor path
- Burglary protection on ground floor and climbable areas
- Photovoltaic system with energy storage and optional emergency power function
- Air source heat pump?
- KfW 55 energy standard would be desirable
- Large floor-to-ceiling glass fronts in living and dining area – operable with sliding function
- Floor-to-ceiling windows in children’s rooms and bedrooms
- Exterior blinds in living/dining area and kitchen
- All shutters and blinds are electric
- Terrace with awning
- Permeable paving stones for garage driveway => see development plan text section
- Green roof on garage => see development plan text section
- Retaining wall at northeast property boundary
- If possible: sports/hobby room with “normal” windows, no light well, facing bike and footpath
- Garage driveway should be at ground level
- Partial home automation with KNX; programming and server will be done personally
- Sound-absorbing acoustic ceiling in living/dining area
- Optional:
- Guest room on upper floor
House Design
Who designed it:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? => The connected living and dining area. Priority is given to the living room, which ideally should be 5 x 5 m (16 x 16 ft) to have enough space for a 5.1 sound system.
What do you not like? => The large hallway, which in my opinion takes up too much space. If you put a half-landing staircase where the guest bathroom is, you get huge children’s rooms upstairs. Somehow I’m stuck on this and can’t think of anything better.
Personal price limit for the house, including features: 500,000 euros
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions can you do without: Some garage length.
What can you not give up: Large living room, large open kitchen. Lots of light in the house.
Why does the design look the way it does?
Terrace orientation southwest, building window
madex schrieb:
However, I don’t consider about 120 sqm (1300 sq ft) of garden space to be very small. 120 sqm (1300 sq ft) of garden is huge—if you are looking for a contact lens there—but only in that case. You glance over a square meter (about 10 sq ft) of outdoor space with a quick sideways look; it’s not comparable to a square meter of living space, which is more like the difference between spending roughly a minute in front of and behind the bathroom door.
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Mottenhausen schrieb:
Not to be a party pooper, but are there
1. a project budget?
2. a cost estimate for the current 1. Yes, there is, and it is sufficiently high. See first post.
2. Yes, approximately 500,000 euros
I have to say, it annoys me to have to make such assumptions. I want to gather ideas to approach the upcoming meetings with the planners as constructively as possible. Here in the Stuttgart metropolitan area, you cannot pick any plot of land you want; compromises have to be made, and this was the best compromise we could find in over a year of searching. The budget was not the limiting factor.
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Mottenhausen30 Dec 2018 08:02This was not meant in a negative way, please understand it purely constructively. I have seen the €500,000 (about $540,000) including fixtures and fittings, but that is unfortunately very general. Are all additional costs included? What about the landscaping? Especially the garage can vary significantly in cost. Some people count a €3,000 (about $3,250) IKEA kitchen as “fixtures,” while others consider a €25,000 (about $27,000) kitchen studio kitchen.
If I deduct everything from the budget, there is only €300,000 (about $325,000) left for the finished house, which does not seem feasible in the Stuttgart area at that size. We pay that amount for a turnkey house without photovoltaic systems/KNX etc., and not a ready-to-move-in home, and that’s in rural Saxony where costs per square meter are still significantly lower. This is quite important for further planning.
If I deduct everything from the budget, there is only €300,000 (about $325,000) left for the finished house, which does not seem feasible in the Stuttgart area at that size. We pay that amount for a turnkey house without photovoltaic systems/KNX etc., and not a ready-to-move-in home, and that’s in rural Saxony where costs per square meter are still significantly lower. This is quite important for further planning.
We also noticed that 500 tons might barely be enough in some cases. This is just a wishlist, anyway. It’s already clear that the electrical storage system will only be pre-installed. The landscaping will probably be done later. I would handle the KNX programming myself. We can also finance more; the bank would easily agree to that. But that’s really not the point here. I actually like the idea of the garage with living space above it. If the work area moves upstairs and the guest room moves to the basement, the house can be made more compact. It will never have a large garden, though. If you gain one or two meters, that just makes it about 140 instead of 120 square meters (1500 instead of 1300 square feet) of garden. But who really has a large garden and is just 150 meters (500 feet) from the commuter train station?
madex schrieb:
I added ... a few measurements, I hope that is helpful. Unfortunately, not really.
Why don’t you let your architect design something? Why struggle with it yourself?
If you want ideas, you first need the exterior dimensions of the plot (4 sides) plus the exterior dimensions of the building zone (4 sides) and possibly the exterior dimensions of the house (or affordable square meters).